ATVI was a mixed blessing. I got in right before the latest expansion hoping to make do with the post expansion surge. The slope was nothing near what TBC saw in terms of profits. Meh.
Theres nothing better than making money off of video games. #activision
@(Starman) Alpha: KONAMI also dabbles in real estate, manufacturing of entertainment products (not vid games), owns an internet portal site and has a beer garden. #konami
@SacGamer: I could have sworn I said "companies like Activision" (therefore more than one, or even a large portion of the gaming industry). With these yearly sequels and all the nickel and diming from DLC and the similar, it's just an uglier gaming world to live in, never mind all the bullshit happening with the PC, fanboys and general assholes in the gaming community, faulty ass machines and uninspired game designs (although the last one is more opinion than anything). #activision
@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: I remember seeing an ad for Shrek 3 while vacationing on a tour in Poland. I had virtually ZERO interest in seeing that movie, especially being in Warsaw and all.
Also, with the movie being in Polish and all as well. :P #activision
@(Starman) Alpha: I didn't see it until it was on DVD. My portable DVD player died ten minutes before the end of the movie. I never bothered to finish. At that point, I just did not care at all. #activision
@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: Hell, I never really cared much for the series at all. Didn't even bother to see Shrek 3 that summer. Instead I decided to see Ratatouille. Best movie decision I ever made.
On another note, the Novotel in Warsaw was an awesome place to stay in. :) #activision
@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: I sorta liked Shrek 2, but it was one of those movies that every teacher in high school showed when they wanted to have a free period. I think they passed around the same DVD.
By my junior year I had seen Shrek 2 32 times. I never, NEVER, want to see or hear about that damn ogre again in my life! #activision
I thought the Shrek movies were a trilogy, honestly.
And while we're on the topic of movies that I never knew came out, that would be Open Season 2. Yes, you're as surprised as I am, and even more so, because I honestly first saw that this existed this summer at a flea market in Aruba. You heard me right, a flea market in ARUBA (that place was awesome to go to :D ). I honestly thought it was a piss-poor bootleg, judging from the cover, until I went back home and saw it on shelf stores.
...Yeah, I'm just not that informed on movies anymore, sorry. :(
But getting back onto topic, I wouldn't be surprised if the next Call of Duty is set in Vietnam. And if that happens, well, Activision is just lucky that they are HQ'd in Santa Monica, far far away from the Anaheim and Westminister area. FAR FAR AWAY.
@(Starman) Alpha:
huh, wow.
Anyway why do you say that Activion is lucky to be far away from those towns you mentioned if the game is set in Vietnam? #activision
@Archaotic: Funny thing is that after EA stopped doing that crap gamers started embracing them, but their profits went down. I blame our current economic situation, as no other explanation could possibly exist. (*fingers crossed*) #activision
@Archaotic: Y'know, all those years of Sims2 expansion packs and Madden had made me wish that EA would have applied that good ol' dark magic to expanding on SIMCITY. >:(
I wouldn't be surprised if investors kept encouraging Kotick to keep on doing this shit, though. More sequels means more easy money for them. #activision
@ca$h is Mr. Happy: They went down last fall pretty sharply but I think their decision will pay off better than Activisions decision to milk sequals for all their worth. You can see how Riccitellos more developer and consumer friendly business model has improved peoples perception of them since 2007 and those new IPs can now grow rather than wilt and stagnate like an Activision game. #activision
@-MasterDex-: Oh I totally agree with you. I hope beyond hope that their gamble to actually be a gamer-friendly company pays off. I think a lot of us are feeling their new IPs, and I'm exicted for Dante's Inferno, Jack the Ripper, and also looking forward to Dead Space 2.
Not to mention their EA Partners program (which with Rock Band and Valve Software alone probably makes them more money than their in house stuff).
I agree that it will probably work out in the long run, and I really hope it does. It's just that goddamn cynic in me saying that bad things always happen to good people. #activision
@-MasterDex-: Dude they improved our impression of them (EA). To the average person does that matter? I would guess not. The truth is that while i like what EA is doing these days, what activision is doing makes sense. I liked COD4, WaW, and i can't wait to play MW2 on tuesday. GH sells, and yeah its gotten old, but it makes money. Money is really important if you want to run a successful business. I think that because we are passionate about our hobby we tend to forget that in our discussions of games as art and other bs that games that are made for top of the line hardware need to profitable first and foremost.
I think people give kotick a bad rap. When he gets quoted he isn't talking to us. He's talking to investors and what he says would make me give him my money because "exploiting" franchises does work. And lets not forget that being profitable allows your company to take risks, like the first GH, COD4(which really was a risk from a financial perspective), and the upcoming blur all of which have been published with kotick at the helm. The truth of the matter is that if you want to make money on games with huge costs like we have for 360, PS3 and PC, then you have to play it safe sometimes if you want to remain profitable. #activision
@smuckers is good: Kotick could be sent down for a murder he didnt commit and I still dont think he'd be getting a bad rap. The guy is scum, plain and simple. #activision
@Jaziek: thats my point its not simple. His job as CEO is to make decisions that keep his company profitable. He's been quite good at that. Videogames are a business pure and simple as you put it. If you have a problem with it dont buy activision games.
edit: sorry if i come across as confrontational. Had a couple g n' ts tonite and i tend to get a bit preachy.
@smuckers is good: I think the majority hear understand the fundamentals of business and no one is arguing that Kotick is making Activision money.
What I'm saying however is that it could be just an illusion or something akin to a firesale. Activision has all these high grossing franchises but rather than really try to reinvent them in any big way or add new IPs to their list of assets, they are running those franchises into the ground and milking them for all it's worth.
You say that EA improved in the eyes of us gamers but that's not true, the general public also stopped buying EA games after Probst ran so many good franchises into the ground (pretty much like Kotick is doing now) and even though many of those consumers might not know any of the workings of the industry, they felt no real desire to buy the games EA was putting out. When Ricetello stepped in and reformed the company, sales went up (as did EAs share price) so you can say that Ricetellos new strategy did improve the quality of EAs games in even the general publics eyes.
Businesses and corporations exist to make money but as EA, Valve and many others have shown in recent times, you don't have to be a dick to be successful...Kotick is a dick, plain and simple. #activision
@-MasterDex-: Looking at the trends surrounding the release of COD4, I think I'll go ahead and buy a good half grand of ATVI stock. Is it blood money? Yes. Blood money I can spend building my trebuchet outside their office windows. #activision
I absolutely despised Treyarch's COD. World at War felt rushed, had the same issues as COD4, but didn't have any of the redeeming features.
As for Guitar Hero 6... LOL!
By the way, what in the hell happened to Starcraft 2? Did they just stop making the game again? I've seen the gameplay footage, it looked done half a year ago.
Im beginning to think Activision just hates gamers in general. #activision
Blizzard largely maintained their autonomity after the merger and usually releases their press info separately from activision. Blizzards planning to release SC2 Q2 010 #activision
knowing blizzard, instead of releasing 10 crap product a year, their just going to delay starcraft2 till late fall or something. (Starcraft 2 was originally scheduled for a November 09 release...lol)
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I thought Web of Shadows was pretty fun and a step in the right direction but Shaba Games was closed. At least there's always Treyarch? #activision
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Theres nothing better than making money off of video games. #activision
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In other news, the Large Hadron Collider overheated and got shut down today because a bird dropped its bread. #retail
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but anyways, just wait til mw2 comes out. also, there were a lot more steady sellers last year like wii fit, mario kart, and brawl.
gta 4 dropped, and music games still werent as played out as they are now.
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SMAP + SMiLE.dk = ??? #konami
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It's no longer an experience to get a game, it's just status quo.
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I'm guessing you were never very much of a gamer if all it takes is 1 company you dislike to make gaming lose it's charm.
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Also, with the movie being in Polish and all as well. :P #activision
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@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: Hell, I never really cared much for the series at all. Didn't even bother to see Shrek 3 that summer. Instead I decided to see Ratatouille. Best movie decision I ever made.
On another note, the Novotel in Warsaw was an awesome place to stay in. :) #activision
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By my junior year I had seen Shrek 2 32 times. I never, NEVER, want to see or hear about that damn ogre again in my life! #activision
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And while we're on the topic of movies that I never knew came out, that would be Open Season 2. Yes, you're as surprised as I am, and even more so, because I honestly first saw that this existed this summer at a flea market in Aruba. You heard me right, a flea market in ARUBA (that place was awesome to go to :D ). I honestly thought it was a piss-poor bootleg, judging from the cover, until I went back home and saw it on shelf stores.
...Yeah, I'm just not that informed on movies anymore, sorry. :(
But getting back onto topic, I wouldn't be surprised if the next Call of Duty is set in Vietnam. And if that happens, well, Activision is just lucky that they are HQ'd in Santa Monica, far far away from the Anaheim and Westminister area. FAR FAR AWAY.
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Open season 2? Wha? When did this happen? #activision
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Glad I never saw the 2 movies. #activision
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huh, wow.
Anyway why do you say that Activion is lucky to be far away from those towns you mentioned if the game is set in Vietnam? #activision
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You: ...
Me: Uhh, I'm drunk, right now. Yeah that's it. DRuuuuuuuuuuuuuunk.
Disclaimer: I am Vietnamese. :P #activision
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Christ, Kotick. Do you even realize how much people HATE your company? The exact same thing happened to EA. #activision
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We all know we can just fill that up with duck tape and babies blood when that one brick leaves. #activision
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I wouldn't be surprised if investors kept encouraging Kotick to keep on doing this shit, though. More sequels means more easy money for them. #activision
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Not to mention their EA Partners program (which with Rock Band and Valve Software alone probably makes them more money than their in house stuff).
I agree that it will probably work out in the long run, and I really hope it does. It's just that goddamn cynic in me saying that bad things always happen to good people. #activision
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Hehe, I know what ya mean.
Whatever happens, I think 2010 will show who made the better choice. #activision
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I think people give kotick a bad rap. When he gets quoted he isn't talking to us. He's talking to investors and what he says would make me give him my money because "exploiting" franchises does work. And lets not forget that being profitable allows your company to take risks, like the first GH, COD4(which really was a risk from a financial perspective), and the upcoming blur all of which have been published with kotick at the helm. The truth of the matter is that if you want to make money on games with huge costs like we have for 360, PS3 and PC, then you have to play it safe sometimes if you want to remain profitable. #activision
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edit: sorry if i come across as confrontational. Had a couple g n' ts tonite and i tend to get a bit preachy.
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What I'm saying however is that it could be just an illusion or something akin to a firesale. Activision has all these high grossing franchises but rather than really try to reinvent them in any big way or add new IPs to their list of assets, they are running those franchises into the ground and milking them for all it's worth.
You say that EA improved in the eyes of us gamers but that's not true, the general public also stopped buying EA games after Probst ran so many good franchises into the ground (pretty much like Kotick is doing now) and even though many of those consumers might not know any of the workings of the industry, they felt no real desire to buy the games EA was putting out. When Ricetello stepped in and reformed the company, sales went up (as did EAs share price) so you can say that Ricetellos new strategy did improve the quality of EAs games in even the general publics eyes.
Businesses and corporations exist to make money but as EA, Valve and many others have shown in recent times, you don't have to be a dick to be successful...Kotick is a dick, plain and simple. #activision
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Buuuuut,
The first Guitar Hero was not a risk by Activision. It was published by RedOctane/MTV Games, and developped by Harmonix.
In short, no link to Gutiar Heros being made now.
But sure, a risk none the less it was. #activision
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Guitar Hero 6
Band Hero 2
Band Hero: No Doubt
Guitar Hero: Journey
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits 2
DJ Hero 2
DJ Hero: Daft Punk #activision
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As for Guitar Hero 6... LOL!
By the way, what in the hell happened to Starcraft 2? Did they just stop making the game again? I've seen the gameplay footage, it looked done half a year ago.
Im beginning to think Activision just hates gamers in general. #activision
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Blizzard largely maintained their autonomity after the merger and usually releases their press info separately from activision. Blizzards planning to release SC2 Q2 010 #activision
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knowing blizzard, instead of releasing 10 crap product a year, their just going to delay starcraft2 till late fall or something. (Starcraft 2 was originally scheduled for a November 09 release...lol)
-_- #activision