I remember when people migrated away from PCs to consoles so that they wouldn't have issues with hardware. These days, ineffective plug and play and blue screens of death seem like a warm memory.
It just doesn't seem fair that people can buy a console, do what they want with it (modify it) and the company you paid for the hardware that is now your property can disable it. It's not like you're renting the thing. I can understand why people with Homebrew enabled Wiis would be pissed off. Imagine if someone from Ford saw that you'd added a different set of wheels to your car and disabled your engine.
I haven't updated my Wii since...I bought it. That was 2 months after launch, too, so I'm still on FW Old.1.ancient. Why did I never update it? Because there has never been any reason for me to play Wii online.
Should I play Mario Kart Wii, the latest boring version of their MK franchise? Or SSBM, and get to have an entirely disconnected feeling as I combat 12 year olds around the globe, the closest one across the ocean? Is there any other game that I could actually enjoy online, instead of with my friends in my house?
There has never been any reason for me to buy VC titles, when I have owned anything from the VC channel I would want to play for the past 15 years now. And the stuff I want to play but don't have definitely isn't on the VC, so that is what my good friend emulator is for.
I have learned from my past mistakes (yeah, you, xbox360, psp), that upgrading firmware is usually a bad idea, because they will either take away something you like, or add a ton of shit you don't need.
I guess I got lucky. My Wii was modded to play games off my harddrive but I wanted to download Megaman 2. Of course I knew the 4.2 updated wiped the HBC but I updated anyway so I can access the shop channel and I own physical copies of the games on my harddrive anyway.
I continued to play Megaman 2 and Muramasa for a while with no problems at all. It's unfortunate that this had to happen to others, though.
Nintendo are greedy, I'm happy that this is happening to them, they are losing money now, before fighting piracy release some good games 1st, and no the New Mario port doesn't count, they didn't even enhance the graphics, and Mario Galaxy 2 looks exactly like Mario Galaxy, they try hard to save money so I'm glad they are losing money now.
So, after years of playing to their fans, falling from 1st to 2nd, from 2nd to 3rd place, they release a console that appeals to a much wider demographic than the "hardcore/mature PS3/360" players, which is a surprise hit, and although it was the cheapest console for something like 4 years... they're greedy?
I... I'm not even sure it's worth the effort to insult you.
@Đipic: I hate Nintendo now, many fans and i'm one of them asked Nintedo to release Mother 3 in the US but Nintendo refused, they only want to release a game that sells more than a million, they never do any fan service, look at Sega, they released Nights on Wii and they know it will not sell well, that's what i call fan service, i don't care for Nintendo anymore.
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"Everyone gets 'New Super Mario Brothers' when it comes out.
Everyone puts it in there Wii, and it automatically updates to 4.2
Everyone's Wiis break."
Anyway, I'm scared to update to 4.2 now. I don't want to send in my Wii and get my game data and downloaded titles erased.
I guess I'll have to wait until 4.3. u_u
does this affect newly purchased Wii's? If the unit is not connected to the internet it cannot update. am i right? or is there an option to update? I might wait to buy my wii if it's going to not work right out of the box.
@Pillybaul: The newest update won't be on the systems that are on store shelves. It might eventually come packaged on a game disc that you might buy or rent, however they are not real quick on this (I'm guessing due to manufacturing times etc). So provided you don't hook it up to the net you're safe.
@Pillybaul: While most of what DragonYen said is right, allow me to clarify. When (not if) the update is added to a retail game, you will be required to install the update before you can play the game. I think every update I've gotten from a disc has been a first-party title (Galaxy, Brawl, etc.). I don't think I've ever seen one on a third-party game. But don't quote me on that.
When I saw this update come along, some sort of intuition told me to leave it alone ... I usually update pretty quickly, too. I hope Nintendo does the right thing and get everyone fixed up quickly.
Hey, wait, Kotaku totally linked me to modding my Wii months ago to backup my legitimate games to a hard drive! I can't help but feel that Kotaku is partially responsible.
Seriously tho, the Wii has time and time again been shown to be rife with glitches and security holes that are allowing hackers, for legitimate or otherwise purposes, to mod their systems. Personally, I load all my PURCHASED games on the hard drive (except for the multi-game compilation discs, which are problematic), and the load time benefits alone are enormous, not to mention the benefit of not having the optical drive in the Wii constantly running while I'm playing, which no doubt cuts down on wear as well as heat.
Nintendo is trying to fix the barn door after the horses got out, and doing a sloppy job at that if it's breaking modded and unmodded Wiis alike. Think I'll be sitting on the 4.1 update for a long, long time.
Partially responsible my ass. Kotaku didn't force you to install the Homebrew Channel with a gun pointed at your head. If you installed the Homebrew Channel, you did so on your own accord. Don't even try to pass some bullshit blame on Kotaku.
@Krakn3Dfx: Kotaku is not responsible at all and neither are the folks who created the homebrew channel or any of the other unofficial software/firmware/.wads.
Your responsibility however is not a question at all. You were told by Kotaku and by Lifehacker in their article as well as the authors of homebrew, the authors of Gamma Loader and every other piece of unofficial software that no matter what the numbers or the science says... there is ALWAYS a chance you could mess something up or that the authors themselves might unintentionally release bugged software and that you, as the one making the decision to go ahead and try it out anyway, are the one responsible for that decision.
It is infuriating that someone who is a member of a video gaming community would even attempt this "Kotaku made me do it" reasoning.
Anyone can write code. Even if you live somewhere where it is illegal to do so. Anyone CAN write the code and in America it's free speech and protected. USING that code is a different story.
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Should I play Mario Kart Wii, the latest boring version of their MK franchise? Or SSBM, and get to have an entirely disconnected feeling as I combat 12 year olds around the globe, the closest one across the ocean? Is there any other game that I could actually enjoy online, instead of with my friends in my house?
There has never been any reason for me to buy VC titles, when I have owned anything from the VC channel I would want to play for the past 15 years now. And the stuff I want to play but don't have definitely isn't on the VC, so that is what my good friend emulator is for.
I have learned from my past mistakes (yeah, you, xbox360, psp), that upgrading firmware is usually a bad idea, because they will either take away something you like, or add a ton of shit you don't need.
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I continued to play Megaman 2 and Muramasa for a while with no problems at all. It's unfortunate that this had to happen to others, though.
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Nintendo Technical Support: Hello there! How may I help you today?
Average Wii User: Mawio bwoke! Pease fix?
NTS: Hmm I see. Did you install the new System Menu 4.2?
AWU: I mummo...
NTS: Interesting...I have to ask you this: have you modified your console in any way?
AWU: Wha is moody fly?
NTS: Did you change your Wii in any way?
AWU: Ummm I put stickaz, lots of em, they are pitty!
NTS: Hacker!
AWU: I just pooped.
NTS: We will be notifying the authorities; we have your phone number and relevant information.
AWU: I got socks on.
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What the fuck company isn't? I hate whenever someone makes this comment, it's ridiculously stupid.
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So, after years of playing to their fans, falling from 1st to 2nd, from 2nd to 3rd place, they release a console that appeals to a much wider demographic than the "hardcore/mature PS3/360" players, which is a surprise hit, and although it was the cheapest console for something like 4 years... they're greedy?
I... I'm not even sure it's worth the effort to insult you.
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"Everyone gets 'New Super Mario Brothers' when it comes out.
Everyone puts it in there Wii, and it automatically updates to 4.2
Everyone's Wiis break."
Anyway, I'm scared to update to 4.2 now. I don't want to send in my Wii and get my game data and downloaded titles erased.
I guess I'll have to wait until 4.3. u_u
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Seriously tho, the Wii has time and time again been shown to be rife with glitches and security holes that are allowing hackers, for legitimate or otherwise purposes, to mod their systems. Personally, I load all my PURCHASED games on the hard drive (except for the multi-game compilation discs, which are problematic), and the load time benefits alone are enormous, not to mention the benefit of not having the optical drive in the Wii constantly running while I'm playing, which no doubt cuts down on wear as well as heat.
Nintendo is trying to fix the barn door after the horses got out, and doing a sloppy job at that if it's breaking modded and unmodded Wiis alike. Think I'll be sitting on the 4.1 update for a long, long time.
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Partially responsible my ass. Kotaku didn't force you to install the Homebrew Channel with a gun pointed at your head. If you installed the Homebrew Channel, you did so on your own accord. Don't even try to pass some bullshit blame on Kotaku.
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I took that first paragraph as a joke...but if you feel the need to swoop in and save Kotaku from being wrongly blamed...more respect to you.
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Your responsibility however is not a question at all. You were told by Kotaku and by Lifehacker in their article as well as the authors of homebrew, the authors of Gamma Loader and every other piece of unofficial software that no matter what the numbers or the science says... there is ALWAYS a chance you could mess something up or that the authors themselves might unintentionally release bugged software and that you, as the one making the decision to go ahead and try it out anyway, are the one responsible for that decision.
It is infuriating that someone who is a member of a video gaming community would even attempt this "Kotaku made me do it" reasoning.
Anyone can write code. Even if you live somewhere where it is illegal to do so. Anyone CAN write the code and in America it's free speech and protected. USING that code is a different story.
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Do you not know what sarcasm is either?