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my neighbor has had some real bad luck. he has gone through 5 of them. kinda crazy cause i use his 360 to play the 360 exclusives like halo, l4d,etc.
(PS3/Wii owner here) yeah its pretty awesome, because neither of us is bleeding fanboys who refuse to play that OTHER console
and the worse thing is they always RROD during the week of a big launch for a game.
and in fact all of my 360 owning friends have gone through multiple 360's. its fair to say that the failure rate of the 360 is its true and only "achilles heel".
i know im in a small minority, but i hate having shit break down and have to send away for repairs. as it was i waited for a week for my hdtv repair and that was pure hell. just recently my tv started showing the same damn defect again. this is the 4th time.
(westinghouse hdtv) and i now am going to change to a new tv. (sony bravia). not for any fanboy reasons, but purely because a friend has had his bravia for 3 years with no damn problems like power failure or extreme burn in.
i want the 360 for the exclusives
-mass effect
-halo
-splinter cell conviction
-l4d
-etc
its just the headache of having shit breakdown when im really in the mood to play games. as it is i dont have 80 hours to burn during the week to play games like some other folks. that RROD part just fucking sucks anyway you look at it.
/end rant
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Then again I did by those used from Gamestop so it's expected. No problems yet with my current, which I bought in March of this year.
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Meanwhile, was there any amount of poll-takers who had never actually owned a 360? I could see some ballot stuffing from fanboys from the other camp.
But that is such a riddiculously small sample size that the poll isn't even remotely newsworthy.
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Then see how many headline-only readers I can catch.
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#speakup
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PS3 holds absolutely no appeal to me, and personally I think the wii is a joke. Irregardless of the amount of units Nintendo has sold.
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Just out of curiousity, which games do you find yourself playing the most lately?
#speakup
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To answer your question though, I am mostly a shooter guy (which may explain some of the 360's appeal to me...you know to stereotype), but I also love me some XBL arcade games.
Currently I'm addicted to "Modern Warfare 2's" multiplayer. Yeah, real shocking huh? But one of my favorite 360 games is without a doubt "Dead Space". I freaking love that game. I'm also wanting to get "Assassin's Creed 2" which is obviously multiplat and I hear a bit better on PS3 for certain features.
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But yeah, I just picked up Dead Space again. I started it a while back but for some reason ended up trading it. Well, now that I have it back I'm excited to actually get some time with it.
Oh, and it if the Wii is a joke, I think it's Nintendo who's doing the laughing if you know what I mean. I actually enjoy it quite a bit, but it's certainly not the place to be if you like online shooters (I generally hate them). I've been playing NSMBW and it's fantastic. Maybe my GOTY.
#speakup
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I just LOVE that picture.
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I think the installing to hard drive was a godsend. Less heat in the system, no chance of burning out your DVD drive (like what happens to some systems) since its not being used, and much much less noise. I mean, ignoring all the other benefits like faster loading and such.
If more people installed to HDD, more people would have working xboxes. That said, nobody should be forced to install to the hard drive so wtf Microsoft, stop hiring malaysian child labourers to build your systems out of scrap metal and local voodoo magics.
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...Good thing you got your senses back in the end of the last paragraph.
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I honestly think that besides the jasper chip, installing to the hard drive is going to cut down on a lot of system death. Its not needing to vent nearly as much heat all the time.
And this wasn't even an option before NXE came along.
I think Nintendo had it right with cartridges tbh. Cause I'll likely still be able to play my 64 10 years from now... any of the systems out today, likely not.
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Well there might be SOME reason I'd like to play the PS2 a decade from now.
I wish my Dreamcast would work as it should, though. I can't even play the latest game I bought for it.
11/18/09
This, my friend, is the beauty of PC emulation and why it should never be killed off. Your console might die, but a computer that can run the classics with a controller hooked up to it will preserve your loved ones.
@Ribbuku:
You're the odd one off then. Everyone gets console problems, but theres a lot more working NES/SNES/64/Genesis/etc systems out in the wild today than I believe there will be 360's/PS3's/PS2's/Wii's in 10 years.
Even the gamecube was built like a brick, even for an optical disc system. Its just on the Wii that I've seen Nintendo systems go down the busted hardware path.
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#speakup
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I was waiting for someone to bring this up. Someone always does. Then someone else says 'Sony has mandatory ones because the blu ray drive cant read some of the information fast enough, Microsofts are still voluntary' and the original someone never responds.
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Obviously it's different for different people as electronics have a way of flaking out in different ways (not to mention people abuse them / don't take care of them and expect them to live forever).
But, I own a first gen PS1, first gen PS2, 80gb 2nd gen back compat PS3 and first gen 360 and the 360 is the only one to have needed repairs. It was sent out for repair twice, and on the third time it was out of warranty so I just left it (sigh). I know my old NES and SNES still work as I tested them recently (although a bunch of RPG's I own don't work anymore because the internal battery died, which I suppose I could swap out). I gave away my Gamecube to a cousin, which I kind of regret now, so I'm not sure if it's still working, and my Genesis met with an unfortunate moving accident, but other than that all the consoles I've owned are still alive even to this day.
Heck, I'm tempted to go dig around in the closet to find my old Magnavox Odyssey to see if it will work.
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#speakup
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*cough*
Now that I've got your defensive attention, I'd like to speak about my PS3. It has lately had troubles loading games whenever I put them in. Started back when I was playing Uncharted 2 and Tekken 6 on it, especially the former would get my machine to start sounding like a buzzsaw after a little while of playing.
However, this week, with Ratchet and Clank, it doesn't seem to have any problems whatsoever, which I am happy about.
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Uncharted 2 does take pretty long to load, but I think that's the price we pay for no loading screens within the game itself. Also, after installing the first update mine simply wouldn't load, so I had to erase game data to play it (I've yet to play it online).
I think your console is fine, those games just happen to have long loading times. Of course, I could be wrong. You should try playing some of your old games to see if anything changed.
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#speakup
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@allyoukids: Wouldn't the Slim be more expensive than the repairs though?
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After ME2, there aren't any exclusives that I absolutely must play - I am interested in Alan Wake, but I could do without it.
Halo: Whatever, Crackdown 2 or Splinter Cell? Not for me.
Even if recent 360s were 100% reliable, the damage is done as far as I'm concerned: all multiplatform purchases go to the PS3, and I certainly won't buy another 360 if my Elite fails outside of warranty.
And when MS's next system comes around, chances that I'll get one at launch are slim at best.
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I didn't like Fable 2 enough to finish it and details on #3 did little to woo me.
NNN 2 would have to be the Most Improved Sequel Ever for me to even bother downloading the demo.
KUF2, not interested either. I just don't dig the gameplay - that particular niche is not for me.
I wasn't sure I wanted to play Gears 2 after the first one; now that I have, I know for certain I don't want to play Gears 3.
Halo just never appealed to me - very few FPS do.
I play very little multiplayer, so L4D2 does no more for me than TF2 or COD.
As for MechWarrior, the only thing remotely resembling a mecha game that I ever enjoyed was ZOE2 (and it's a stretch to even put the two in the same sentence).
Magna Carta 2 isn't exactly JRPG Hall Of Fame material. These days, RPGs have to be damn good for me to agree to the time commitment.
I have no more interest in Forza than I have in Gran Turismo or most racing sims.
So, there... If we're talking exclusives, I'm more of a Heavy Rain, Last Guardian, God Of War III, Uncharted, Demon's Souls kinda person. And in a more future, Yakuza (if Sega bother to bring it westward) or inFamous2.
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I wouldn't say it's hall of fame material but if you've got a console and you want games you buy games and play them. As a JRPG fan I don't need a game to get 90% or higher before I touch it. I'm more into trying a lot of games rather than just going for the block busters in a hollywood styled approach to gaming.
Well it seems you dig anything on PS3 a lot more than anything on 360 some reason. Oh well maybe it is just preference. Still if you like Infamous why not crackdown? I'm not here to argue though, just tried seeing if any of the games you might have forgot about interested you.
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I found the story and characters much more interesting (Crackdown hardly had much of either), and Infamous' world felt more original and distinctive, less messy and all-over-the-place.
To be fair, I didn't have the motivation to finish Crackdown, so maybe the story develops into something better. But overall, the premise and execution simply didn't "click" with me.
EDIT- I'll say this though: Natal definitely has the potential to make me fall back in love with the 360 like in the days of Dead Rising, Mass Effect and Lost Odyssey.
The keyword is "potential", however, because I'll remain sceptical about it (and Sony's wand) until I see something more concrete than tech demos.
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Well the truth is things need to click really, just like how uncharted doesn't click with me yet most other games do. If it doesn't click there's just no way to enjoy them so I understand what you mean. Hopefully they'll release some more stuff that interest you down the line though.
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If the headlines read, "60% of People Who Chose to Take This Survey Own 360s That Died," then they'd be accurate. Anything else is misleading.
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Never had a Red Ring, have had to replace the DVD Drive, but other than that no Dead 360's.
I have had a PS3 Drive fail - which was fixed under Warantee.
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Yeah this pissed me off as well and some other people below on the comments...
But I wonder, if the numbers were that huge and reliable, woudn't it be a win case for a mass-sue Microsoft?
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McWarrior, Nick-I-Am -- I'd promote your comments, but doing so would also promote the angry troll you're responding to...
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Fuck.
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Keep in mind that I've been gamin' since the '70s. I've owned just about every console (starting with the TelStar), and no joke: Not a single one has EVER broken down. I take great care of my stuff.
The last one I had, the disc tray wouldn't close. If you tried to close it, the mechanism would simply push the tray back out. ...wasn't covered under warranty (at least that's what I was told over the phone twice).
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So... seven? I mean, really? I'd probably have given up on the console by the second redring.
Great thing about PC gaming is you only usually have to replace one part, not the whole thing.
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Really.
Anyway, the first few were all covered under the "two year warranty" I'd picked up at Best Buy. So no big deal.
But get this (it's been a few years so I hope I'm remembering this correctly) - Best Buy's two year warranties aren't really for two years. It varies.
Before Microsoft extended their warranty to three years, I had multiple 360's break down. I kept taking them back to Best Buy and swapping them out for new ones.
After, I think it was about a year and a half - I took one in 'cause it had died, again.
Best Buy told me my warranty had expired.
I'd explained that I'd bought a two year warranty and I was within those two years, soooooo WTF?
Turns out the first "year" of Best Buy's two year warranties run concurrently with the manufacturer's warranty.
Meaning: if the manufacturer's warranty is only TWO MONTHS, then the first "year" of Best Buy's two year warranty is also only TWO MONTHS.
I was soooooooooooo pissed. Oh. My. Friggin'. God.
Anyway, my girlfriend ended up buying me a new 360. I ended up buying her one after her 360 died too.
So overall, I've actually purchased two 360's (even though I'm on my 7th).
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...not sure if it was two months or three months. I thinnnnnnk it was just three months. So my "two year" product replacement plan at Best Buy was actually only a year and three months.
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You would have thought with the constant hardware revisions they do it wouldn't be so much of an issue now.
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The estimate of a 60% failure rate doesn't seem too high to me. PS3's failing at or above 15% is a bit troubling as well although I haven't had any troubles with mine.