Have they announced all the details for this yet? Like what exactly the content will be? Hopefully a level cap raise, along with maybe a new weapon manufacturer or something. Just adding more content when you're maxed out is kinda blah.
@Mister Jack started the Save The Lombax Foundation: ah is that so, I didnt enjoy that game enough to get any DLC for it. I did however turn my game on before I traded it in and collected billions of dollars on my save. should I ever want to play again Ill be able to buy anything.
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Borderlands is one of my favorite games to come out all year, and this looks like some of the best DLC to come out in a while. 50 missions? Well played, Gearbox. #borderlands
Still having a blast with this game as I'm [slowly] working through my 2nd run [Lv. 47 Mordy] but Gearbox needs to do one thing for me:
Fix the broken achievements.
Seriously, I've killed like a billion fucking guys with Corrosive weapons and no Facemelter. I haven't rushed through this game at all but come on it's been out for awhile and I would've thought there'd be a fix by now.
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@Super Violent St: It lists how many things you've killed. Check the number.
(on quest screen you should be able to switch to a sub-tab showing all achieves. - at-least you can on the PC) #borderlands
@MeateaW: Yeah I've checked and so far I'm at 900+ with corrosive kills and got nothing. It's cool though. I've been so into ripping apart everything with Mordy that I haven't put much time into the other 3 characters. Lilith looks like she can dominate too.
Oh and my current Mordy build but I might reset a few point to the Sniper tree. It's not a definitive build- just one to help others survive.
Am I the only one getting sick of all the wahhh talk about "Fast DLC means they're charging us extra for the 'full' game!!!11one!1eleven"
Do a check on how long it takes between going gold and a game actually selling on shelves.
Compare that to how long it takes to get DLC out when it's finished.
Just because DLC comes out a week or two after a game launches, doesn't mean the DLC was magically finished in time for the game to go to print and they excluded it because they were evil.
But honestly, the same people would probably bitch and moan if it took them a month to launch DLC because it should have been out sooner.
The game had plenty of content at launch. Them adding more later doesn't mean they subtracted before. Grow up. #borderlands
@Squiffy: Also, those people need to consider that the game isn't finished the day it's released, the 'finished game' has to be submitted for mass production quite some time before the actual release date, so they might have had 1-2 months to work on this since they 'finished' the original game. #borderlands
@Squiffy: no problem with it specially if the game takes about 20 - 30 hours to play. i personally like DLC if its as big as this is supposed to be. i dont like it if its the street fighter 4 type with just the added costumes. but if you dont like it you dont have to buy it. vote with your money!!! #borderlands
@Squiffy: I remember hearing that they when Bioware delayed Dragon Age, the separate team working on the DLC managed to complete the Stone Prisoner and the Warden's Keep before the game was released...
Then again, we know that Stone Prisoner was designed specifically as a used-copy-purchase prevention measure, and it looks like Warden's Keep was just designed to give them enough content for a collector's edition or something.
I get it when people talk about Capcom, when apparently the material is on the disc, but if something's developed separately and actually downloaded, I think peoples' complaints are unwarranted. #borderlands
@Squiffy: What utter foolishness - I simply cannot believe and fathom anyone actually has the nerve to try and justify such blatant corporate greed and avarice. In what alternate universe is making a frugal, prudent buying decision such a bad thing? Frankly, I loathe the idea of being nickle-and-dimed for every insignificant addition to an already vivid, pre-existing game world, especially if said items come out literally one day after initial launch. The idea baffles and fills me with seething rage. When I dish out $60 for a brand new title, I expect it to be highly polished to the absolute maximum degree - not some half-assed, bug-ridden, glitch infested, novice attempt at game design, with no control over servers or creative expression whatsoever (I'm looking at you, Infinity Ward)! It is indeed a bad, unethical, suspicious business practice, when DLC is released the following day, at higher rates than other forms of media (ala Guitar Hero & Rock Band song tracks). I refuse to be another stupid, uninformed, naive consumer, incapable of discerning right from wrong, and will gladly boycott if the need arises. For some reason, I get a feeling you work for the industry, or are somehow in on the conspiracy. It is beyond my mental capacity and understanding, why anyone would possibly support these methods without being brainwashed or profiting off of it. It's like allowing yourself to be rape victim, or an idle bystander witnessing a horrible atrocity, but at the same time, you're getting paid to keep your mouth shut, so it must be fine and alright. At least, that's what I can gain from reading the comment above, because it doesn't make much sense relative to the way gamers are being treated currently as a whole. I also don't appreciate how you not only encourage intentional, deliberate price gouging, but foul-mouth those who happen to love freedom and equality. If you've been paying even remote attention to industry trends lately, you would've noticed and realized that many companies tend to act as if all gamers are guilty of being "hackers", "pirates" and whatnot. As long as we continue to maintain that image, they can easily deprive us of basic civil rights, until videogames (as an art form) is nothing but a commercialized dead shell of it's former self, glorious self. What we need to do, is put trust and faith in good companies, and let them serve as proper examples for ones who take our actions with skepticism and hostility. P.S. Telling Kotaku users to "grow up" gives zero legitimacy to your argument, and is just plain ruge. I hope you refrain from doing it in the future and learn from your mistakes.
@Squiffy: Actually, for a lot of games, this doesn't apply at all. Especially recent games like Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 and Dragon Age. For MUA2, each console got "exclusive" characters, and now they're charging for those characters to come to the opposing platforms instead of just putting them all together like they should. This exclusive crap is BS.
As for Dragon Age, what the crap justifies 2 DLCs to be out the day the game is released?! And not only that, to charge $15 for one and $8 for the other? That's absurd. Your $60 game just became a $83 game, if you want the whole experience.
As for Borderlands, I think this is fine, because it did give the game at least a month for people to play and finish. It's still a short notice, but in this day and age, you do need to keep getting content out to your customers or you're going to lose them to other games. That's just the way it is now. Quick consumerism. #borderlands
@kingphilip: Yeah, I thought that was classy, too.
Note how he says I was rude for telling people to grow up, then brings up that little gem.
Yes, there are cases of companies intentionally gouging with overpriced or underdone DLC.
I was aiming my comment at the people that complain about every piece of DLC out there, regardless of quality or quantity. The people who feel they are "owed" all extra content for free, or that all DLC should be on the scale of Fallout 3 and GTA4's expansions.
I'll be picking up this DLC. I won't be picking up minor things I don't see adding much value to my gaming time. #borderlands
@Hikiko: No, I don't work for the industry. But I support those that put out good DLC.
I have no problem paying for quality DLC like this one. I won't be picking up costumes or things like that.
My comment was referring to this article in particular, and how they dismiss the DLC due to how quickly it arrived. I was merely giving examples of why DLC can arrive seemingly quickly.
Not to mention, as another commenter mentioned, oftentimes a separate team works on DLC near the end of the core game's development cycle. #borderlands
@UCB-Disco: I believe the DLC available for dragon age so far is FREE when you buy the retail game (with the exception of wardens keep which came with the collectors editions). You get free promotional codes with the game that unlock the DLC content.
I think the reason the DLCs in standalone form are $15 and $8 is to discourage people buying a used copy of the game (where the dev/pub won't receive any profits). #borderlands
@Squiffy: Just commenting to back you up Squiffy. Hikiko sounds like he needs to take off his tin foil hat and/or troll more. Not all DLC's are worth buying, true, but this one in particular looks worth the money and I'll gladly buy it to encourage more good DLC's of this type. #borderlands
@Squiffy: You're absolutely right Squiffy, you deserve accolade for presenting the case for good DLC so well. Couldn't have typed out the words better myself.
Meanwhile, Hikiko makes me sad, since while he / she seems quite the articulate and well spoken individual, his / her arguments are ludicrous. Expecting every game "to be highly polished to the absolute maximum degree" ? Using the terrible dollar-for-value music track DLC trend as an example of appropriate pricing for campaign expansions? Making rape-victim analogies?? If this weren't the internet, I would consider such behavior shocking.
Anyways, this person makes me sad because either we have an articulate fool who presents their crazy-stance very neatly, or a well spoken sane person who puts a lot of effort into trolling valid areas of discussion. I'm not sure which is more depressing to encounter here. #borderlands
Again, I'd get this on day one. $10 is the standard price for DLC-levels and since the standard game was worth more than the $60 my roommate paid for, I can see that $10 going to good use.
I just really hope that there arent any game breaking bugs in this release compared to stand alone game. I also hope that this wouldn't be the last DLC made for it.
This is one of the best things I've heard all day. Glad to hear that Borderlands getting a sequel is a 'no-brainer'. Sometimes games that are really good just don't get the sequels they deserve. #borderlands
Yes, but fix everything with the PC version first please :( Not that I wouldn't mind switching over to console for the sequel, but I'd rather stick with the original platform I started the series with. #borderlands
Okay, that's a little harsh. But as someone who rarely comes across technical issues in games, I've already run into two with Borderlands.
Lost all skill points after a co-op session with a pal, and last night I had the bug where my bullets would disappear until I switched and re-switched my weapons back.
I love the game, it's a friggin loot hunt which is really my cup-o-shizz, and the co-op is the 2nd reason I bought it, but having a hunter without a Bloodwing is severely game-crippling.
That said, I hit 50 last night and started a new toon with a pal and didn't run into any issues. #borderlands
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Ah, didn't know the console versions had such major issues as well. I did see that they patched the console versions last week, but since I didn't have either I didn't pay too much attention heh. #borderlands
@Dr Durdon: you talking about the eraser bug? (long story ahead)
last night I played with a friend who recently copied over his save files because he just re formatted to Windows 7 and didn't want to lose his saved character data. The game marked his account as "cheating" because he tampered with game files, so anyone playing with him now gets afflicted with the eraser bug.
Not knowing this, I joined him last night to find that I couldn't throw my turret out. Then checked my skills to see that my skills points were gone and everything locked. Later I would find that all my acquired artifacts and ALL weapon proficiencies had been reset to zero. My lv26 soldier had been effectively reset, where this is irreversible and I can never get those skill points back, ever.
The kicker? My friend's account that is supposedly "cheating" is still normal, just all accounts that play with him from now on get the eraser bug. Even more kickier? Gearbox has responded to this bug as, "should have backed up your save files :D"
Imagine getting this from a random online person with a lv50 character. I know one that did, he lost all skill points permantently and a lv50 proficiency in shotgun. First bug I've ever run into that is basically a game killer.
I still love this game, but now I'm paranoid and have to backup my remaining saves after I quit. Wish Gearbox was less Gearbroken -_- #borderlands
@xoda000: That's essentially what happened to me, but on Xbox. I was playing with my bro-in-law and neither of us are cheaters or have tampered with save files. His was fine, mine was fucked.
Gearbox has said it's usually the non-host who's affected. After reading through pages and pages of these issues, I've decided that the main factor is jumping out of your existing game when you get invited by a friend. Make sure you save and exit before accepting the invite; go all the way back to the start screen where you choose your options, THEN accept the invite. I did this last night and had no issues #borderlands
@Dr Durdon: I had an ammo bug myself for the console. It wasn't a bad bug though.
I had been playing with a really powerful SMG on my Siren, 4x explosive. I started using it at about lvl 19. Got my proficiency up to about 36 when I hit 29. This is my third character that I've gotten 36+ in smg proficiency, and when I started firing I noticed that my ammo was regenerating.
Now I went through all my skills and didn't read anything about ammo regen, I was playing with a buddy who was also a Siren, and I asked him to check if he had anything that gave ammo regen to the team, and he didn't. The SMG stat's were +43% reload speed and 1.9x weapon zoom.
I have no idea how I got it or what but it's only for the SMG and it hasn't gone away after several times of shutting my system off and turning it back on. #borderlands
@Maephaal: It could be that the item card doesn't show that it's ammo regen. Depends on how much free space you have, but I know there's an issue with the item card displaying only 4 lines of stats when there should be five. Doesnt sound like that's the issue with you though. #borderlands
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You should see this amazing incendiary SMG I got, actually. Made most of the last bits of the game very easy indeed. #borderlands
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Fix the broken achievements.
Seriously, I've killed like a billion fucking guys with Corrosive weapons and no Facemelter. I haven't rushed through this game at all but come on it's been out for awhile and I would've thought there'd be a fix by now.
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(on quest screen you should be able to switch to a sub-tab showing all achieves. - at-least you can on the PC) #borderlands
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Oh and my current Mordy build but I might reset a few point to the Sniper tree. It's not a definitive build- just one to help others survive.
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Do a check on how long it takes between going gold and a game actually selling on shelves.
Compare that to how long it takes to get DLC out when it's finished.
Just because DLC comes out a week or two after a game launches, doesn't mean the DLC was magically finished in time for the game to go to print and they excluded it because they were evil.
But honestly, the same people would probably bitch and moan if it took them a month to launch DLC because it should have been out sooner.
The game had plenty of content at launch. Them adding more later doesn't mean they subtracted before. Grow up. #borderlands
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Then again, we know that Stone Prisoner was designed specifically as a used-copy-purchase prevention measure, and it looks like Warden's Keep was just designed to give them enough content for a collector's edition or something.
I get it when people talk about Capcom, when apparently the material is on the disc, but if something's developed separately and actually downloaded, I think peoples' complaints are unwarranted. #borderlands
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As for Dragon Age, what the crap justifies 2 DLCs to be out the day the game is released?! And not only that, to charge $15 for one and $8 for the other? That's absurd. Your $60 game just became a $83 game, if you want the whole experience.
As for Borderlands, I think this is fine, because it did give the game at least a month for people to play and finish. It's still a short notice, but in this day and age, you do need to keep getting content out to your customers or you're going to lose them to other games. That's just the way it is now. Quick consumerism. #borderlands
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Note how he says I was rude for telling people to grow up, then brings up that little gem.
Yes, there are cases of companies intentionally gouging with overpriced or underdone DLC.
I was aiming my comment at the people that complain about every piece of DLC out there, regardless of quality or quantity. The people who feel they are "owed" all extra content for free, or that all DLC should be on the scale of Fallout 3 and GTA4's expansions.
I'll be picking up this DLC. I won't be picking up minor things I don't see adding much value to my gaming time. #borderlands
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I have no problem paying for quality DLC like this one. I won't be picking up costumes or things like that.
My comment was referring to this article in particular, and how they dismiss the DLC due to how quickly it arrived. I was merely giving examples of why DLC can arrive seemingly quickly.
Not to mention, as another commenter mentioned, oftentimes a separate team works on DLC near the end of the core game's development cycle. #borderlands
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I think the reason the DLCs in standalone form are $15 and $8 is to discourage people buying a used copy of the game (where the dev/pub won't receive any profits). #borderlands
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Meanwhile, Hikiko makes me sad, since while he / she seems quite the articulate and well spoken individual, his / her arguments are ludicrous. Expecting every game "to be highly polished to the absolute maximum degree" ? Using the terrible dollar-for-value music track DLC trend as an example of appropriate pricing for campaign expansions? Making rape-victim analogies?? If this weren't the internet, I would consider such behavior shocking.
Anyways, this person makes me sad because either we have an articulate fool who presents their crazy-stance very neatly, or a well spoken sane person who puts a lot of effort into trolling valid areas of discussion. I'm not sure which is more depressing to encounter here. #borderlands
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I just really hope that there arent any game breaking bugs in this release compared to stand alone game. I also hope that this wouldn't be the last DLC made for it.
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It comes out next week, Nov.24th.
Anyone know what the title of the song is? #borderlands
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@seifer_pso: @DukeOfPwn: @adrian783: @(Vashified) Ratosai:
Thanks guys. #borderlands
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Okay, that's a little harsh. But as someone who rarely comes across technical issues in games, I've already run into two with Borderlands.
Lost all skill points after a co-op session with a pal, and last night I had the bug where my bullets would disappear until I switched and re-switched my weapons back.
I love the game, it's a friggin loot hunt which is really my cup-o-shizz, and the co-op is the 2nd reason I bought it, but having a hunter without a Bloodwing is severely game-crippling.
That said, I hit 50 last night and started a new toon with a pal and didn't run into any issues. #borderlands
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Ah, didn't know the console versions had such major issues as well. I did see that they patched the console versions last week, but since I didn't have either I didn't pay too much attention heh. #borderlands
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last night I played with a friend who recently copied over his save files because he just re formatted to Windows 7 and didn't want to lose his saved character data. The game marked his account as "cheating" because he tampered with game files, so anyone playing with him now gets afflicted with the eraser bug.
Not knowing this, I joined him last night to find that I couldn't throw my turret out. Then checked my skills to see that my skills points were gone and everything locked. Later I would find that all my acquired artifacts and ALL weapon proficiencies had been reset to zero. My lv26 soldier had been effectively reset, where this is irreversible and I can never get those skill points back, ever.
The kicker? My friend's account that is supposedly "cheating" is still normal, just all accounts that play with him from now on get the eraser bug. Even more kickier? Gearbox has responded to this bug as, "should have backed up your save files :D"
Imagine getting this from a random online person with a lv50 character. I know one that did, he lost all skill points permantently and a lv50 proficiency in shotgun. First bug I've ever run into that is basically a game killer.
I still love this game, but now I'm paranoid and have to backup my remaining saves after I quit. Wish Gearbox was less Gearbroken -_- #borderlands
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Gearbox has said it's usually the non-host who's affected. After reading through pages and pages of these issues, I've decided that the main factor is jumping out of your existing game when you get invited by a friend. Make sure you save and exit before accepting the invite; go all the way back to the start screen where you choose your options, THEN accept the invite. I did this last night and had no issues #borderlands
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I had been playing with a really powerful SMG on my Siren, 4x explosive. I started using it at about lvl 19. Got my proficiency up to about 36 when I hit 29. This is my third character that I've gotten 36+ in smg proficiency, and when I started firing I noticed that my ammo was regenerating.
Now I went through all my skills and didn't read anything about ammo regen, I was playing with a buddy who was also a Siren, and I asked him to check if he had anything that gave ammo regen to the team, and he didn't. The SMG stat's were +43% reload speed and 1.9x weapon zoom.
I have no idea how I got it or what but it's only for the SMG and it hasn't gone away after several times of shutting my system off and turning it back on. #borderlands
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Yes, this does make it a MMO with a giant instanced world. And I'd buy it. #borderlands