@animeman59: communist fascism? I think you should go look up what both of those are. That's like calling someone a god fearing atheist or a right wing socialist.
I think banning viiolent videogames to effect the violence and murder rates is counter productive, considering that they actualy help people work out their agression in a non-violent manner.
I, a venezuelan, had to lived every atrocity this monkey president had done in the last 10 years. The violent videogames NEVER has anything to do with the violence seen in the society. Even more disturbing is the fact that you are not safe anywhere, not even in your own home.
The only reason his doing this is to mark his territory, to take even more rights off the society, to control every little detail of the venezuelan's life. This maniac is just a megalomaniac with a communist vision.
Videogames are definitely NOT the problem here. It is the monkey president himself.
Man, no need whatsoever to use the word barrio in that report. Replace barrio for neighbourhood and the message is exactly the same. Oh, but then it won't be "latino", because you have to add something like "barrio" to set the south american flavor. What a crap.
anyways, this law won't have any effect whatsoever. I'm pretty sure they can't possibly enforce this law. Given the problems with violence, I find it unlikley that they'll put police officers at lan houses. Oh wait no I was wrong, the law will change things. It'll give crooked cops an excuse to blackmail lan houses. Way to go!
@Revenge_of_Nekojin: I know, I don't mean to direct my complaints at Kotaku. I was just making an observation on the matter. Just like I was making an observation on the stupidity of the law, I won't send an e-mail to the venezuelan embassy airing my opinion.
@Acheron's Grief: No, but I live in a country with a more or less similar scenario. In Brasil we have really huge problems with violence, mostly due to drugs and the social gap. We have an inneffective police that not only is short on men power, but also has crooked and poorly trained. Piracy is also huge in here, including inside Lan houses, where certainly most of the games installed in these places are pirated. And, we also had a law banning Counter Strike on the basis that it is a violent video game corrupting the gullible youth.
Basically, when it comes to this issue, Brasil and Venezula have a very similar situation, given the coincidence of elements we share.
You know, if anything, this demented law can probably be blamed on Brasil, since we started the trend of banning Counter Strike, as far as I know that is.
@Fernando Jorge: Don't worry, I wasn't judging you or your comment, I asked because here, barrio doesn't mean the same as in other Latinamerican countries, while in Mexico and other countries barrio means neighborhood, here, the translation is more like shantytowns or slums, google images of "barrios de Venezuela" and you'll see what I mean. So, that's why they said barrio instead of neighborhood.
I'm all opposed to game bans, but given the other things that dictator is doing, this is a minor issue. The tyrant is eradicating any and all opposition. He's even closing news stations that aren't blatantly biased in his favor. The man is a dictator, he'll never let go of power, mark my words. A ban on games is the least of Venezuela's worries. But it still sucks because this will go through since Chavez always gets what he wants.
He and his sycophants are just trying to divert attention from their crumbling house of cards. With oil production dropping because of mismanagement, combined with drastically lower crude prices. Chavez's social programs designed to placate the populace are breaking the bank. In addition his anti-yankee rhetoric really isn't resonating without Bush in office anymore; so he's left creating new boogie men out of whole cloth. Banning games is like you said, just another link in this man's chains strangling whatever freedoms the Venezuelan people have left. Eventually it'll turn into a whole sale slide into tyranny, we've seen this movie before. Which sucks, the Venezuelans are good people, they deserve better.
This is a bad idea, but I wonder what will happen when the ban goes through and nothing changes, or gets worse at that? And just think what will happen to the people who no longer have virtual targets to shoot?
"Heck, everyone else is shooting real people, why not I?"
And of course this will lead to more pirated games...
- In Prison
"Hey man, what you in for?"
"I killed a guy, what about you?"
"...I played a video game."
I just wonder what they'll ban next...alcohol? death metal? It just ceases to amaze.
@excel_excel: Some people play violent games and are addicted to them and end up being violent. I remember when I was younger, I had Super Street Fighter II for SNES and I was pretty violent to my brother, hitting him when I wouldn't get my way (I feel sorry for him now, but we're best of friends).
Now how about we start banning violent films as well? Shit like this is ridiculous.
I don't think it has any effect on the crime rate. I think if people are out there, stealing and killing, they have a lot more to worry about then leveling their SOCOM navy SEAL, or honing their headshot in Counter-Strike.
"Opponents say that the government's efforts to ban violent games may shutter some Internet cafes but it won't curtail the playing of violent games nor have any effect on the country's crime rate."
And they're absolutely right. Them thinking that banning video games will automatically mean much lower crime rates is as idiotic as people thinking back in the early 1900s that banning alcohol was going to end crime, prostitution, lack of productivity, etc.
You can't blame the problems of an entire society on a single thing. Every time someone does it makes them look like ignorant tools.
I lived 5 years in Venezuela, the violence has NOTHING to do with violent videogames or movies. When I lived there most people were still playing NES and people would get killed left and right for their shoes!
I got mugged by two guys with a gun coming out of school at 9 AM, I was wearing my uniform and I was only 14 years old going home after an early release day.
This is just Chavez's way of masking the country's real problems and blame them on "outside" influences.
Castro has been doing this with Cuba since the early 60s, everything is America's fault. There's a draught? America's fault. There's a hurricane? America's fault.
This is just one more dictatorship trick Chavez has picked up from Castro, and one more way to censor any type of outside media.
Sounds to me like the games are keeping the kids off the street. If they're all in the internet cafe playing counterstrike with each other, they very well aren't out shooting people in the street.
Not sure where they are getting the idea that games are the cause of all their problems.
@Unknown-User: You have to understand that video games ARE to blame. The mere thought of a child or teen taking control of a character and killing another character is disturbing, it tells them that killing another person is the only way to level up.
When I watched Scarface, the first thing I did was slice a scar across my face and tell my mom I want what's coming to me. When she asked what that was, I said "I Want What's Coming to me... the World, Chico, and Everything in It."
Wow, your ignorance is simply astounding. It is people like you that are the reason people try to censor everything from books, music, movies and even video games. If you don't want your kid being exposed to this stuff then don't let him play the games or listen to the music or whatever. But don't fucking enforce your OPINION on me and tell me what I think is morally right and wrong isn't correct. Who says that video games teach kids it's okay to kill?
If your kid believes that's true based off of a video game then you are a horrible parent and need take responsibility for YOUR actions and faults. Teach your children what is right and what is wrong and what the difference between reality and fiction is. When parents start taking responsibility for their own mistakes and admitting that they messed up by using video games as a baby sitter while they were busy with work or to keep their kids occupied so they wouldn't be bothered at home the sooner this mess will clear up. Until then, you will have ignorant people using everything else as a scapegoat for their own mistakes.
@Curse lily: But I enjoy Fox news! Where else can I watch newscasters shedding tears over a young man's death only to follow that up immediately with sports news.
@Naikou: Yes, America has already implemented it into our national anthem.
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Thank you Chavez, you lovable, teddy-bear of communist facism!
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The only reason his doing this is to mark his territory, to take even more rights off the society, to control every little detail of the venezuelan's life. This maniac is just a megalomaniac with a communist vision.
Videogames are definitely NOT the problem here. It is the monkey president himself.
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anyways, this law won't have any effect whatsoever. I'm pretty sure they can't possibly enforce this law. Given the problems with violence, I find it unlikley that they'll put police officers at lan houses. Oh wait no I was wrong, the law will change things. It'll give crooked cops an excuse to blackmail lan houses. Way to go!
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Basically, when it comes to this issue, Brasil and Venezula have a very similar situation, given the coincidence of elements we share.
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(Imagine one of those hilarious upside down exclamation points at the beginning too.)
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He and his sycophants are just trying to divert attention from their crumbling house of cards. With oil production dropping because of mismanagement, combined with drastically lower crude prices. Chavez's social programs designed to placate the populace are breaking the bank. In addition his anti-yankee rhetoric really isn't resonating without Bush in office anymore; so he's left creating new boogie men out of whole cloth. Banning games is like you said, just another link in this man's chains strangling whatever freedoms the Venezuelan people have left. Eventually it'll turn into a whole sale slide into tyranny, we've seen this movie before. Which sucks, the Venezuelans are good people, they deserve better.
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"Heck, everyone else is shooting real people, why not I?"
And of course this will lead to more pirated games...
- In Prison
"Hey man, what you in for?"
"I killed a guy, what about you?"
"...I played a video game."
I just wonder what they'll ban next...alcohol? death metal? It just ceases to amaze.
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But that doesn't mean we would go out and commit violent crimes.
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I don't think it has any effect on the crime rate. I think if people are out there, stealing and killing, they have a lot more to worry about then leveling their SOCOM navy SEAL, or honing their headshot in Counter-Strike.
Gimme a break.
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And they're absolutely right. Them thinking that banning video games will automatically mean much lower crime rates is as idiotic as people thinking back in the early 1900s that banning alcohol was going to end crime, prostitution, lack of productivity, etc.
You can't blame the problems of an entire society on a single thing. Every time someone does it makes them look like ignorant tools.
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I got mugged by two guys with a gun coming out of school at 9 AM, I was wearing my uniform and I was only 14 years old going home after an early release day.
This is just Chavez's way of masking the country's real problems and blame them on "outside" influences.
Castro has been doing this with Cuba since the early 60s, everything is America's fault. There's a draught? America's fault. There's a hurricane? America's fault.
This is just one more dictatorship trick Chavez has picked up from Castro, and one more way to censor any type of outside media.
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@fdisk: But the Americans DO have weather control devices, comrade! See how they ravage our Soviet brothers!
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Not sure where they are getting the idea that games are the cause of all their problems.
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When I watched Scarface, the first thing I did was slice a scar across my face and tell my mom I want what's coming to me. When she asked what that was, I said "I Want What's Coming to me... the World, Chico, and Everything in It."
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Im guessing you would tell the Venezuelan government:
"Why don't yo stick yo head up yo ass? See if it fits."
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Wow, your ignorance is simply astounding. It is people like you that are the reason people try to censor everything from books, music, movies and even video games. If you don't want your kid being exposed to this stuff then don't let him play the games or listen to the music or whatever. But don't fucking enforce your OPINION on me and tell me what I think is morally right and wrong isn't correct. Who says that video games teach kids it's okay to kill?
If your kid believes that's true based off of a video game then you are a horrible parent and need take responsibility for YOUR actions and faults. Teach your children what is right and what is wrong and what the difference between reality and fiction is. When parents start taking responsibility for their own mistakes and admitting that they messed up by using video games as a baby sitter while they were busy with work or to keep their kids occupied so they wouldn't be bothered at home the sooner this mess will clear up. Until then, you will have ignorant people using everything else as a scapegoat for their own mistakes.
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maybe next time kiddo.
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@Naikou: Yes, America has already implemented it into our national anthem.
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