2, What about the "I bought a cooling loop for 60 bucks used for the proc" factor?
I firmly stand on the "can build it cheaper" end. Not only that, AW hasn't convinced me one bit that this is all worth it. To what end, hm?
I own a steel "case" that has no panels what so ever. My power switch broke off years ago, I hotwire my PC to turn it on. Does that matter when I game though? No, and AW can't convince me otherwise.
Instead of spending money on trivial things such as looks, I spend it on hardware. Mind you, not bleeding edge, just simple hardware that makes Most things play very nicely.
For those who wonder:
E6750 @ 3.6Ghz on MSI Neo2-FR, 2x2 GB XMS2, ATi 4850
@smiddy: I take it you don't know a lot about computers. There are several reasons, the most important of which is so that you don't get dust or other contaminants getting in. Computer parts are actually pretty delicate, and things like dust and crud can gum up the works. Worse yet, if you were to, say, spill your drink on your desk, and it dripped down to the computer underneath... bye bye computer. Down for the count.
It's kind of silly what a big deal they made about this, like it was the second coming, but it IS a very cool, useful, smart feature.
EDIT: Finished watching video... "silly what a big deal they made"? This computer is freaking NUTS! ...I want one.
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While they do have many interesting features, I think the problem of Alienware stuff is the price - and I don't just mean 'it's too high.' It's that A) it's a price NO-ONE finds reasonable, just some can afford it, and B) I can build a PC with the same specs for literally a QUARTER what they charge. And the pieces will be just as high in quality.
Calling it infinitely upgradable because of screwless assembly and a fancy, obviously expensive and harder to maintain alternative to fans on certain vents strikes me as weird. It isn't like roughly half of the cases you can buy today don't have a screwless assembly anyway and calling it infinitely upgradable because you can have up to six hard drives strikes me as silly, and doubly so when you consider that socket types with Intel are currently splitting into two directions and PCI Express is likely to be undergoing a major change sometime before the next two years.
So while that may seem silly to me, so does using a fancy air-based heat dissipation method when your hotter components are already on liquid cooling.
Also I'm rather annoyed by the fact that he didn't explain what a motorized heat vent even is. You know, a fan and a vent could be called a motorized heat vent. But thats buzzwords for you. It's not like Alienware customers are typically from the overclocking scene anyway... which really makes all that fancy cooling pretty moot.
@Jonathan Rose: Not to mention, liquid cooling is pretty pointless unless you overclock like a motherfucker.
Sure, it increases component life - but the way I see it, if you're enough of an enthusiast to bother fucking around with water cooling, keeping the solution bubble-free and cleaning algae out of the tubes, you're probably going to be replacing the whole machine within 2-3 years.
@Matt0505: Problem is, it doesn't even look nice. You can get much more functional, easy to work in cases that do look better and put together your own superior machine for a lot less.
@Matt0505: Hardly. The "PC" community have been putting in high quality components in their gaming laptops a lot longer than Apple started giving up their manby-pamby PowerPC (Please...) Processors.
From Falcon to Alienware, to (then) Voodoo and now ASUS (and beyond), we're still rigging our desktops and laptops, and that will likely never change.
--Typing this on an ASUS ROG G51-VX1-A1 laptop with Q9000 Quad processor (Overclocked) with 8GB of RAM, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260M CUDA with 1GB Dedicated GDDR3 VRAM, ExpressGate function, Hackintoshed partition in it's second HDD and other doo-dads.
NOTE: My MacBook Pro has since been sitting in my closet in it's box for the last two months. (^_^)
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@IsLaNd3r - and the chipmunks: Owning both a MacBook Pro and an ASUS ROG G51-VX1-A1, I am confused as to what is actually right about the statement; especially when the gaming community have always had laptop and desktop configurations available to them (at least since the late-80s/early 90s), and Apple fairly recently ditched their PowerPC CPUs for Intels.
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The hard drive storage at 04:28 is smexy, they should have a windowed side panel to show it off.
Props to Alienware, even though most pc gamers would swear to never purchase this, it's good to see gamers whom aren't into PC gaming (yet) can find avenues to jump right into high end pc parts.
@suntorytime: I'm not sure about the showing off bit, especially when not all 6 HDD bays are used up, but it sure looks far easier to maintain than the setup in my Antec case where the 4 HDDs are in a 'box' that can be pulled out, but then the cables get pulled out of the HDDs making hooking them back up a royal PITA.
@SupaPhly: would love to see someone build you that, for cheaper.
Look I've always stated the same thing, I could build me a much cheaper computer, but motorized vents, hydro cooled stations, not just cooling the entire box with one, but cooling separate area's with several, space for 6 hard drives, that are easily swappable, no tools, you can upgrade every bit to this machine without having to go through Alienware directly.. seriously show me someone who can do all that for cheaper... I was amazed by all that.
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1, Why do you need all that?
2, What about the "I bought a cooling loop for 60 bucks used for the proc" factor?
I firmly stand on the "can build it cheaper" end. Not only that, AW hasn't convinced me one bit that this is all worth it. To what end, hm?
I own a steel "case" that has no panels what so ever. My power switch broke off years ago, I hotwire my PC to turn it on. Does that matter when I game though? No, and AW can't convince me otherwise.
Instead of spending money on trivial things such as looks, I spend it on hardware. Mind you, not bleeding edge, just simple hardware that makes Most things play very nicely.
For those who wonder:
E6750 @ 3.6Ghz on MSI Neo2-FR, 2x2 GB XMS2, ATi 4850
09/25/09
09/25/09
It's kind of silly what a big deal they made about this, like it was the second coming, but it IS a very cool, useful, smart feature.
EDIT: Finished watching video... "silly what a big deal they made"? This computer is freaking NUTS! ...I want one.
09/25/09
09/25/09
So while that may seem silly to me, so does using a fancy air-based heat dissipation method when your hotter components are already on liquid cooling.
Also I'm rather annoyed by the fact that he didn't explain what a motorized heat vent even is. You know, a fan and a vent could be called a motorized heat vent. But thats buzzwords for you. It's not like Alienware customers are typically from the overclocking scene anyway... which really makes all that fancy cooling pretty moot.
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Sure, it increases component life - but the way I see it, if you're enough of an enthusiast to bother fucking around with water cooling, keeping the solution bubble-free and cleaning algae out of the tubes, you're probably going to be replacing the whole machine within 2-3 years.
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09/25/09
From Falcon to Alienware, to (then) Voodoo and now ASUS (and beyond), we're still rigging our desktops and laptops, and that will likely never change.
--Typing this on an ASUS ROG G51-VX1-A1 laptop with Q9000 Quad processor (Overclocked) with 8GB of RAM, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260M CUDA with 1GB Dedicated GDDR3 VRAM, ExpressGate function, Hackintoshed partition in it's second HDD and other doo-dads.
NOTE: My MacBook Pro has since been sitting in my closet in it's box for the last two months. (^_^)
09/25/09
Wouldn't it be the other way around?
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'Alienware recommends Windows Vista'
I love that. :D
09/25/09
And that question refers to now, in 2009, not when Vista first launched.
09/25/09
I run Vista on my Laptop, and I like it.
Just found it funny, try breaking your frown a little.
09/25/09
Wasn't sure if you found each individual line funny or both of them together, which seems to be the case here.
09/25/09
I'm gonna stick with Falcon Northwest.
09/25/09
Props to Alienware, even though most pc gamers would swear to never purchase this, it's good to see gamers whom aren't into PC gaming (yet) can find avenues to jump right into high end pc parts.
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09/25/09
I shit bricks.
There are no words to describe how much pain I'm in right now.
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Look I've always stated the same thing, I could build me a much cheaper computer, but motorized vents, hydro cooled stations, not just cooling the entire box with one, but cooling separate area's with several, space for 6 hard drives, that are easily swappable, no tools, you can upgrade every bit to this machine without having to go through Alienware directly.. seriously show me someone who can do all that for cheaper... I was amazed by all that.
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Also, pics or it didn't happen.
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or it didn't happen.