Were the writer of this article actually familiar with Dante's poem, he would be aware that the Inferno canticle already ends with plenty of erotic anal imagery. In order to exit Hell, the pilgrim climbs down Lucifer's body and descends through a "fóro," which can be translated as a crevice or opening. This journey from Hell to the southern hemisphere through an opening in between Lucifer's legs has been traditionally likened to excretion and birth, which the attached 15th century Florentine drawing from Columbia's Digital Dante project clearly illustrates. In fact, this image of people passing through Lucifer's anus- is so pervasive in medieval literature, that Chaucer even saw fit to parody it in the Summoner's Tale, which literally describes a nest of friars flying out of Satan's ass.
So, Dante getting shoved up Cerebus's rectum in the game script and cartoon isn't really a departure from the original. The scene, as well as the whole project most likely, is just a spectacularly ignorant reading of the poem.
They would've been much better off just modeling Hell after the 9 Circles mentioned in The Divine Comedy and leaving it at that. It's one thing to be influenced by another source, especially something like the 9 Circles of Hell which has been popularized in a plethora of media and entertainment outlets outside of Dante's Inferno. It's another thing entirely to completely bastardize the source material itself and convolute it into a piece of garbage that has nothing to do with what it's based off of.
If this was just a God of War clone set in Hell with a Christian palette instead of Greek Mythology, I don't think anyone would care. However, the fact that they're going to such extremes to tell you how they're completely destroying the material it's supposed to be based off of is absolutely ridiculous. They have absolutely no respect for The Divine Comedy, and it's a shame to see such a historical piece of literature get pissed on like this.
@Kanji08: Oh calm down. It's just a book. Just because it is old and famous, doesn't mean that it needs to be treated with great respect and reverence.
@Hey_Blinkon: Even if it wasn't a famous book responsible for creating a language now spoken by 70 million individuals and crafting a visual ideal of the afterlife in the world's most prominent religion, why shouldn't it be treated with respect?
There's a reason gamers get pissed about Uwe Boll movies. It's because he completely shits all over source material that they enjoy - and that's just simple videogame franchises.
When you multiply that factor times the status The Divine Comedy holds in literature, as well as what it's contributed to the modern world, then yeah. I'd say people have a right to be angry when it gets massacred to such a degree.
Maybe you don't care, but it's a bit frivolous to disregard the rants of those who are offended by it.
Can you say that when the executive producer is talking about how excited he was putting something in the ass of another being in the game based one of the most epic and well-respected poems in the history of the world?
Because I feel...empty. I have such great respect over Dante's work that this feels...I don't know.
It feels weird.
Kinda like nothing is sacred.
Kinda like we've reached a new low.
Y'know, they could've made a sleezy porno out of this, and I would feel nothing, because a porno is a porno and I don't think there's a person who takes them seriously.
But here we have a videogame, part of the culture that is arguing that it should be allowed to be viewed as an artform, taking Dante's Inferno and making it into something that it is not. In fact, it's as far from it as it could be. It has nothing to do with Dante's work at all, past the setting.
They are just exploiting the name in a way that leaves me feeling dirty and unclean over calling myself a gamer.
Is this the direction which games really should be going in?
@ShadowOdin isn't american: You know, most of me agrees with you, and this game worries me more and more as more information trickles out. But there is a part of me that considers that Dante populated Hell partly with his personal enemies, subjecting them to degrading punishments, and just wonders what Dante ever did to Inferno's developers. Isn't there some guy that fired them, or pushed a game out the door before it was ready, that they could shove up Cerberus' ass? I can't imagine how this game isn't going to end up a hot mess.
@ShadowOdin isn't american: I agree with you totally, the one point I'd say is that games have gone in this direction with films for ages. Reservoir Dogs/Godfather are two immediate arguable 'masterpieces of cinema turned into fairly dumb games (Godfather game was dumb, may have been amusing, but stupid use of source). I wonder though, if it will work as a gateway to anyone? They'll play the game and it will get them interested in poetry? I highly doubt this, but it'd be nice.
@ShadowOdin isn't american: I think you are confusing 2 types of video games; artful video games (Okami comes to mind mostly) and pure enjoyment video games (anything else).
FIrst and foremost, its a video game, intended to be entertaining to whoever it may please. We could have said the same for God of War because there was some Greek mythology in it. When the "mini sex game" was known, did people complained about how its kinda "low"? Not really, people just found it cool or "lawled" at the feature.
God of War and Dante's Inferno are basically the same game with different settings. Replace the greek mythology with Christian religion and you basically have Dante's Inferno.
But why is Dante being picked at?
Dont get me wrong, I sorta see your point, but you have to remember this is a game aimed to be entertaining and was never meant to be anything near historical or educational (or something of that matter).
To everyone, thank you. I was afraid I was overdramatizating it, but I am glad to see people agree with me. Those are my honest feelings about this matter.
This utterly tasteless matter.
@TearsandScreams: I think it's the wrong kind of game. People getting interested in Inferno because of this game is gonna get disappointed. Gravely.
However, my intrested from Dante actually origins from FFIV and the references made in that game (as well as my interest for old literature), so your preposition is not completely out of hand. It's just the wrong kind of game to get people.
@TheZen: I think you're confusing religion with literature.
God of War never claimed to be any well-loved story. It's not Perseus, it's not Homeros, hell, it's not even Hercules. It doesn't twist and bend and destroy a story so that it becomes something it is not.
By the way, are you even familiar with greek mythology? The gods were vicious, vindictive and downright cruel.
They'd strike you down for thinking too much of yourself,
And a man having sex with his concubines was pretty commonplace. Used to be all the rage.
This, however, is different.
Dante's inferno is a man's journey through hell in search of the woman he loves. He's a simple man, a thinker and most of all, he's frail.
He is not an angry, steroid-filled vicious man who beat up Death, took his scyth and is now out for blood, vengeance and sticking things up the ass of Hell's watchdog.
@ShadowOdin isn't american: You're all over-reacting. It's not like this is some terrible travesty or something. Who cares. Its a famous story. It doesn't affect Dante's work. No one is going to confuse the book or the game either. If someone knows NOTHING of the book, plays the game, and is interested in the book, odds are they're gonna say "Fuck it" when they read 2 pages.
Either way, it's just a book. Getting all upset because it "isn't being done justice" is stupid.
When I first heard that a game based on Dante's Inferno was being made, I was skeptical, but thought the right team might be able to do something interesting with it. When I heard it was just going to be God of War with Christian mythology substituted for Greek, my expectations lowered still, but figured they might still at least have an interesting spin on the formula. Now that I'm hearing how excited the executive producer is about upward-directed ass-shoving, I've not only lost all faith in this game, but in mankind itself. Congratulations, sir, you've managed to do what eight years of the Bush administration couldn't. Now I'm going to get back to work on my Doomsday Machine.
BOYS!!! Suicide is always an option.. don't be so harsh on yourself, it's not your fault...
Hollywood is killing games.... Game Industry is killing literature...
@abcFRAG: I wasn't being harsh on myself, I was being harsh on everyone else. Also, did you use the word "harsh" because you didn't want to write "hard on?"
@Pizzaman: And Glen Schofield (who worked on both Dead Space and Dante's Inferno) just left EA to join Activision, currently the biggest assholes out there.
The plot thickens...
@Legna: Don't know about the Church, but some Italian literature teachers are going to blow a fuse when kids start asking about the sphincter invasion part.
@Legna: Why exactly? Its not promoting satanism. In fact, if my memory serves me right, you're travling through Hell and its Nine circle and KILLING demons and quite possibly Lucifer himself (or plot twist; you join Lucifer for some odd reason).
If anything, its kinda saying, "hell is bad, kill all demons"
@TheZen: Doesn't really matter, it's more about the use of religious imagery in a less than reverential way. Plus, the "hell is bad, kill all demons" message is being put forth in the most sordid way possible by people who are mostly interested in giggling over boobies and dog anuses.
Aside from the monster anal, Cook also hinted at a scene set in the Lust level, directed by anime director Dong Woo, that was absolutely mind-blowing, over the top..."I can't even talk about it because there are children here."
What, is a giant she-thing going to use Dante as a dildo while eating a bowl of mysterious brown content?
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Were the writer of this article actually familiar with Dante's poem, he would be aware that the Inferno canticle already ends with plenty of erotic anal imagery. In order to exit Hell, the pilgrim climbs down Lucifer's body and descends through a "fóro," which can be translated as a crevice or opening. This journey from Hell to the southern hemisphere through an opening in between Lucifer's legs has been traditionally likened to excretion and birth, which the attached 15th century Florentine drawing from Columbia's Digital Dante project clearly illustrates. In fact, this image of people passing through Lucifer's anus- is so pervasive in medieval literature, that Chaucer even saw fit to parody it in the Summoner's Tale, which literally describes a nest of friars flying out of Satan's ass.
So, Dante getting shoved up Cerebus's rectum in the game script and cartoon isn't really a departure from the original. The scene, as well as the whole project most likely, is just a spectacularly ignorant reading of the poem.
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If this was just a God of War clone set in Hell with a Christian palette instead of Greek Mythology, I don't think anyone would care. However, the fact that they're going to such extremes to tell you how they're completely destroying the material it's supposed to be based off of is absolutely ridiculous. They have absolutely no respect for The Divine Comedy, and it's a shame to see such a historical piece of literature get pissed on like this.
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There's a reason gamers get pissed about Uwe Boll movies. It's because he completely shits all over source material that they enjoy - and that's just simple videogame franchises.
When you multiply that factor times the status The Divine Comedy holds in literature, as well as what it's contributed to the modern world, then yeah. I'd say people have a right to be angry when it gets massacred to such a degree.
Maybe you don't care, but it's a bit frivolous to disregard the rants of those who are offended by it.
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Can you say that when the executive producer is talking about how excited he was putting something in the ass of another being in the game based one of the most epic and well-respected poems in the history of the world?
Because I feel...empty. I have such great respect over Dante's work that this feels...I don't know.
It feels weird.
Kinda like nothing is sacred.
Kinda like we've reached a new low.
Y'know, they could've made a sleezy porno out of this, and I would feel nothing, because a porno is a porno and I don't think there's a person who takes them seriously.
But here we have a videogame, part of the culture that is arguing that it should be allowed to be viewed as an artform, taking Dante's Inferno and making it into something that it is not. In fact, it's as far from it as it could be. It has nothing to do with Dante's work at all, past the setting.
They are just exploiting the name in a way that leaves me feeling dirty and unclean over calling myself a gamer.
Is this the direction which games really should be going in?
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FIrst and foremost, its a video game, intended to be entertaining to whoever it may please. We could have said the same for God of War because there was some Greek mythology in it. When the "mini sex game" was known, did people complained about how its kinda "low"? Not really, people just found it cool or "lawled" at the feature.
God of War and Dante's Inferno are basically the same game with different settings. Replace the greek mythology with Christian religion and you basically have Dante's Inferno.
But why is Dante being picked at?
Dont get me wrong, I sorta see your point, but you have to remember this is a game aimed to be entertaining and was never meant to be anything near historical or educational (or something of that matter).
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This utterly tasteless matter.
@TearsandScreams: I think it's the wrong kind of game. People getting interested in Inferno because of this game is gonna get disappointed. Gravely.
However, my intrested from Dante actually origins from FFIV and the references made in that game (as well as my interest for old literature), so your preposition is not completely out of hand. It's just the wrong kind of game to get people.
07/23/09
God of War never claimed to be any well-loved story. It's not Perseus, it's not Homeros, hell, it's not even Hercules. It doesn't twist and bend and destroy a story so that it becomes something it is not.
By the way, are you even familiar with greek mythology? The gods were vicious, vindictive and downright cruel.
They'd strike you down for thinking too much of yourself,
And a man having sex with his concubines was pretty commonplace. Used to be all the rage.
This, however, is different.
Dante's inferno is a man's journey through hell in search of the woman he loves. He's a simple man, a thinker and most of all, he's frail.
He is not an angry, steroid-filled vicious man who beat up Death, took his scyth and is now out for blood, vengeance and sticking things up the ass of Hell's watchdog.
07/23/09
But as I said when I first learned that EA was going to do this... They are not the right company to be handling it.
Scrape together the remnants of Clover.
Team Ico would be a dream come true.
Or hell let Level-5 have it...
Square-Enix would even give me better feelings...
07/23/09
Either way, it's just a book. Getting all upset because it "isn't being done justice" is stupid.
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BOYS!!! Suicide is always an option.. don't be so harsh on yourself, it's not your fault...
Hollywood is killing games.... Game Industry is killing literature...
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FFFFF
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I think I'm on to something here.
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The plot thickens...
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Surely the church is going to make pressure to ban this game here.
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"Nel mezzo del cammin del culo di Cerbero..."
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If anything, its kinda saying, "hell is bad, kill all demons"
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Well, it' worked for this kid...sort of?...
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What, is a giant she-thing going to use Dante as a dildo while eating a bowl of mysterious brown content?
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terrifying.
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