This reaction to shooting dogs trained to kill soldiers is so bizarre it's worthy of satirizing on The Onion. I don't think the dogs should be there because they're incredibly fucking annoying and too prone to changing the dynamics of a match (pushing someone in 3rd or 4th place to the top spot in about 30 seconds), but why would anyone be offended by this before they're offended by 18 and 19-year-old boys having their heads blown off by snipers? Or being burned to death by some dude with a flame thrower? PETA does a lot of good, but they go a long way toward erasing the good they've done from people's minds when they support boneheaded boycotts such as the one called for by a student at the Academy of Notre Dame.
The more they go after things like Cooking Mama and COD the more they discredit their whole cause. I'm not saying that it inspires people to go out and act cruelly toward animals, but how respectable a name is PETA now? Most of the readers on here from what I've seen either see them as nuts or passionately hate them.
It's disappointing really since they seem to have the greatest media coverage of any activist group against animal abuse. It's a good cause, but they continue to make it look like a wacky fringe championed only by people with no connection to reality. (If I were a conspiracy nut I'd ask who's side they're really on... but I don't exactly know of a pro-cruelty lobby, lol)
Yes, PETA is the e pert on animal treatment. That's why they adopt animals who might have been killed anyway, and euthanize them themselves and toss the carcass in dumpsters. Worst organization ever.
You know, Mr Fahey, some people actually go to raves for *gasps* the music, and not to get "fucked up" on drugs. I'm sure that sounds pretty hypocritical considering my alias, but there's a fairly large percentage of people who go that don't partake, and generally dislike the fact that many simply regard raves as a drug festival. This ignores the main ideas, the freedom from social barriers - being able to speak openly with strangers, not adhering to the 'everybody looks the same' trendy dress code you get at nightclubs, not having to hear the same damn commercial music you hear over and over again on the radio and so forth that define a rave far more than a drug ever could.
@Stream Of Consciousness: Admittedly, this particular post was meant to be pretty much tongue-in-cheek. The topic of animal rights really hit a nerve for me, and I guess some of that seriousness must have carried over - I really only intended this to be a lighthearted dig at an old generalization. At any rate, I despise the holier than thou attitude and I must say it was not at all my intention to come off sounding that way.
Sad to see the comments here.... sometimes it's feel like 1935-1939 in germany: so much hate, so much intolerance: is that so horrible that people actually care about animals cruelty in this world that we take so much for granted? I don't always agree with PETA actions, but geez, watch yourself in the mirror and see the actual monster you have become!
PETA seem every bit as confused about video games as they do human and animal rights. "Pet instead of shoot dogs" is a real cute little catchphrase, but when you get down to the nitty gritty of it, it does not even need to be said that that is a bad idea for something in a video game about war. Fact of the matter is, dogs are as brainless of an animal as any other, and they can be conditioned and trained to be violent. If a PETA member had a gun in their hand when a dripping, snarling dog came 'round the corner with a thirst for blood, I would love to know how that situation would play out.
Sad to see that Fox news-like propaganda is still strong among americans (just see the recent trash against canadians and all the trash on this thread against PETA)... PETA is maybe extreme but cruelty against animals deserve to be taken in consideration nonetheless, and some comments here are really on the same level that the one that you seem to hate. I have pity for you...
@Nicolas Grignon: Ignorant pity isn't wanted or warranted in this case. Read closely and see what people are really upset about here instead of just trying to "further the cause" and you might see some logical arguments.
Anyway, I'm done straining my neck talking to people like you, most of the time you can't even hear it all the way up there.
Wow, Fahey, bravo on the uninformed editorializing. I wasn't aware you've done extensive research into the use of canines in Third Reich military tactics.
Because it's pretty clear that Treyarch didn't. Because, you know, there are all those GI accounts of doing battle with raging German sheperds.... Oh wait, there aren't any.
But hey, it's PETA, they're nuts, so let's counter their dogmatism (pun intended, maybe) with uninformed editorializing!
Let's see, PETA euthanized 2,124 pets in 2008 (which amounts to 95.9% of those given to them to 'care' for)...number of animals killed by Activision...0.
@Javert: You seem to greatly misunderstand the idea of "euthanizing" these animals. They are in a situation where it is absolutely guaranteed that they will die. There simply isn't the funds available to feed them. Instead of letting them die slowly and very painful from starvation, they do the only humane option - put them out of their misery in the least painful possible manner. It's a last option resort and sadly one that has to be used all too often.
If people stopped spreading mis-information, and instead put their "two cents" into a donation of an actual amount of two cents, then you can bet the amount of animals that need to be "euthanized" would be significantly less.
Killing dogs for entertainment is pretty repugnant. The lack of empathy on here is staggering.
I don't, like some like to accuse vegetarians of, think that animal life is more important than that of humans, I do, however, think that killing animals who are innocent by nature is sick and extreme.
Theoutlet, I don't get more offended about virtual violence than actual suffering. That was not my point.
Like I said above, there is a moral difference between killing a hardened soldier and an innocent dog. However vicious the dog has become, it's not the animals fault. They're not as smart as a soldier and they're not equally armed.
It's analogous to ace combat reminding you that civilians are housed in some of the buildings your bombing. It's true, but completely unnecessary to enjoy a game.
@Jon Marcella: Well said. It always saddens me to see how few people there are that actually care about treating animals properly, and the vast majority of comments here are no exception.
@Jon Marcella: If you have a problem with these things I highly recommend you don't play games that strive to achieve such a sense of realism. It just appears you are incapable of enjoying such games, and I can see how such a reaction could be elicited from certain people.
However, I don't think we should condemn these companies for simply following through on their goal: to make mature, realistic reenactments of war. Anyone who buys such a game and then acts to be offended because they were asked to partake in what the game was so obviously selling is incredulous.
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It's disappointing really since they seem to have the greatest media coverage of any activist group against animal abuse. It's a good cause, but they continue to make it look like a wacky fringe championed only by people with no connection to reality. (If I were a conspiracy nut I'd ask who's side they're really on... but I don't exactly know of a pro-cruelty lobby, lol)
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/PETA logic
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I agree though, generalizations don't help a bit.
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1) Have leather shoes/clothing.
2) Feed their pets meat products.
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Anyway, I'm done straining my neck talking to people like you, most of the time you can't even hear it all the way up there.
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Because it's pretty clear that Treyarch didn't. Because, you know, there are all those GI accounts of doing battle with raging German sheperds.... Oh wait, there aren't any.
But hey, it's PETA, they're nuts, so let's counter their dogmatism (pun intended, maybe) with uninformed editorializing!
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I don't find it much of a coincadence that they keep picking on games after their first stint got so much attention.
So, please, can we just leave these pathetic excuses for activists alone?
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Odd.
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If people stopped spreading mis-information, and instead put their "two cents" into a donation of an actual amount of two cents, then you can bet the amount of animals that need to be "euthanized" would be significantly less.
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I don't, like some like to accuse vegetarians of, think that animal life is more important than that of humans, I do, however, think that killing animals who are innocent by nature is sick and extreme.
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Yet you get more offended when people have to kill a dog in a game than a person. Rationally explain to me how this makes sense.
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Theoutlet, I don't get more offended about virtual violence than actual suffering. That was not my point.
Like I said above, there is a moral difference between killing a hardened soldier and an innocent dog. However vicious the dog has become, it's not the animals fault. They're not as smart as a soldier and they're not equally armed.
It's analogous to ace combat reminding you that civilians are housed in some of the buildings your bombing. It's true, but completely unnecessary to enjoy a game.
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However, I don't think we should condemn these companies for simply following through on their goal: to make mature, realistic reenactments of war. Anyone who buys such a game and then acts to be offended because they were asked to partake in what the game was so obviously selling is incredulous.
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