I used to work for Tyson Foods. Line work, warehousing, and maintenance. Lemme tell you, good old fashioned chicken slaughter never gets old. Also, I miss getting chicken flesh at a discount. #thenewsuperchicksisters
You know, I would understand PETA's side of the issue if they weren't always acting like assholes. They do whatever they can to attract attention, be it positive or negative.
This is not how you run a non-profit organization.
You are supposed to work toward things in peace and respect opinions. You are not supposed to dump red paint on people. That is BAD publicity. #thenewsuperchicksisters
1) Stomping on highly nutritious food sources (mushrooms)
2) Stomping on poor, misunderstood turtles.
3) Ocasionally wears fur coats (made from Tanookis)
4) Burns plants
5) Looks like current-day Pamela Anderson
6) Hasn't posed naked for a PETA ad campaign.
7) Fireballs aren't carbon-neutral.
8) Sometimes stomps turtles and beetles only to a)kick them into other turtles and beetles b)set them ricocheting back and forth endlessly for his own enjoyment or c)send them careening off of bottomless cliffs.
Humane? Sorry, I have a problem applying humanity to CHICKENS. I'm sure they would instinctively rather not die but that's as far as it goes. Give me a buzz when they stop being delicious and start debating philosophy. Till then I don't care how you kill 'em as long as they still taste good.
Though I do find it humorous to imagine that second screenshot taking place with people as one of those 50's informational vids. I mean think about it... the big bird is telling the baby bird that he might be slaughtered and eaten, with the tone of a documentary. It might go something like this:
Hey Billy! Say, did you know that there are cannibals out there who would nothing more than to tear out your still beating heart and consume it. They say it gives them magical powers. Unfortunately they don't use humane methods like anesthesia, so it is quite a painful process to endure. Please, help us by doing your part to fight the cannibals! #thenewsuperchicksisters
@BoTheDestroyer: Agreed. Dogs I feel more sympathetic for, but not for walking bags of meat like chickens, pigs, fish, and cows. They aren't exactly the smartest and most emotive animals. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@dajungki: Just to be annoying, I feel like poitning out that pigs are actually pritty damn smart, while not a popular choice people have been known to keep them as pets relatively often.
@Ojlemon: Pigs are an exception. A pig could have the potential to be a rocket scientist, and it still won't make me give up bacon. It's all about priorities. In this case, bacon trumps respecting the sanctity of sentience in pigs. It's just that simple. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@BoTheDestroyer: Exactly. Animals that are common pets like dogs, etc. I feel for, but not animals that are used primarily for food. It's the food chain, people. Gotta keep it going. Also, vegetables were once alive, too. So, suck on that, PETA. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@Ojlemon: No kidding? Hey, I learned something new today. You'd never guess by the way pigs are depicted in popular culture or literature. "Rolling in the mud", "You selfish pig", etc.
I've also heard that dog meat is actually quite delicious, although it's not your average golden retriever or Chihuahua that's getting cooked here, but some sort of mutt that's bred to be fed. It's popular in some Asian countries, in any case. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@BoTheDestroyer: Are you fucking kidding me? Intelligence is the only significant trait of a living creature when it comes to its rights and privileges? By your very same logic, we shouldn't give the same rights we do to people like you and me to people born with mental deficiency, given brain damage, put into a coma, or even before their brains have grown enough to comprehend higher concepts. Are you saying we should round up and brutally murder all of the mentally handicapped in the world?
Also, you must be aware that animals can feel pain and suffer, or are you as far removed from empathic feeling as you let on? I completely disagree with PETA's style and the company as a whole, but that doesn't mean that just because one group for animal rights is full of mouthbreathing idiots that it completely nullifies their point. Animals may not be as intelligent as you or I, but that doesn't give us the right to blatantly oppress them and market their suffering.
And don't go on the "explain what these canine teeth are for" shtick that so many people harp on about. Meat eating isn't a necessity, it's a luxury. Humans have the means to eat meat, sure, but humans also have the means to rape, murder, and follow leaders blindly but you don't hear rapists saying "explain what the reptilian part of our brain is for" in defense of their actions. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@Brendan Lol McGlynn: No, I am not fucking kidding you. For a change of pace I am going to exercise a bit of brevity here and answer each paragraph with two sentences each.
Here goes...
1) Yes, intelligence (or a reasonable emotive emulation of it) matters a great deal in dealing with lesser species of the animal kingdom. Your later correlation is a bit strange and irrelavent however... unless you are saying you want to eat people with mental handicaps?
2) You are somewhat correct about my lack of empathy in that I don't care if a cow, pig, or chicken suffers. That doesn't occlude me from the capacity to do so with more worthy creatures but I always remember that we rule this planet, not them.
3) If you think the consumption of protein is merely a privilege, then you either need to do more research or eat more meat and get smarter. If our ancestors from the stone age had the same outlook you do, we probably wouldn't even be capable of having this conversation.
Hm. Well, I kind of cheated with some contractions. No matter. Now let me add a little of my own flavor with a more thought provoking discussion. There may or may not be an answer in here to the topic as stated, but I find this to be more stimulating for the brain pocket than the moralistic bleeding heart "how could you be so cold, animals have feelings" nonsense.
Let's talk about lions. Lions are what are called obligatory carnivores. They receive no nutrition from eating plants, only meat. However they also toy with and brutally murder their prey, possibly due to their predatory instincts. This practice seems unnecessary as they are quite capable of quickly and efficiently capturing their prey. Is this behavior intentional or simply because they don't know any better?
Let's come back to humans. We may have evolved to be omnivores, but such an evolution would have been out of adaptation. We are still predators. We are still biologically built for a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, even though we have technologically outgrown it in some areas of the world. Our bodies store and keeps fat, and when there are no calories to burn, metabolism slows. The fat is rationed as temporary nourishment under the assumption that food sources may not become available for a long time. Incidentally, this is why crash diets do not work.
So perhaps due to our innate predatory nature and hunter-gatherer biology, eating meat is as psychologically beneficial as it is physically. Is this intentional, or do we just not know any better?
@Vecha: One more Month: I see, I didn't see it that way until you've pointed it out.
Obviously I didn't think of it that way. In address to Mact, on this subject, I think it is abundantly cleart that I have no sense of humor on this subject.
I don't support PETA 100%, all guns blazing, but I respect what they do, and it's often hard to not side with them when most people who hate their actions, and the group as a whole, for major misconceptions, and all out ignorance. #thenewsuperchicksisters
I support what they do for animal treatment...I can't support them for their crazy attitudes towards people who eat meat. Just can't. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@Eji: yes, i believe it is. they didn't get the memo in which scientists figured out that that there's a certain amino acid we can only obtain by eating animals.
I suppose you could take some kind of supplement but that wouldn't be natural now would it?
@Eji: It's not just everyone going vegetarian, PETA wants total animal liberation, as in we have nothing to do with animals, including no pets, which a lot of supporters seem to miss when they donate money to the terrorists. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@AOClaus: I'll bet the supplement is made from animal products. So all those vegetarians who think they're getting around eating meat, probably aren't. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@Eji: Well, language is an important part of PETA's agenda. Lets face it, language is an important part of any political agenda.
By using certain words, you force people to feel certain emotions regarding a particular subject. It's subtle, but it works.
I'd imagine this is why PETA have been trying so hard to rename fish into 'sea kittens'. People think much more kindly of kittens than they do fish. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@AOClaus: I'm sorry, but we both now that's bullshit, because I'm healthier than ever as a vegan, and, yes that is my health according to doctor's opinion. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@Haruhila: We started domesticating animals and using them around 10,000 years ago, and before that we hunted them.
source: sociology class
edit: By no means are we going to stop now. Animals (I'm going theological here so stop reading if you don't care) were created by God, and put on this Earth for several reasons. I was going to go on and on about why He put them here, but I can't find any. All I read was in Genesis that said he put them here to be here, and the humans could have plants.
I am done being theological.
On the other hand, we do need this one amino acid that comes only from eating meat, so we must; and I'm not about to stop eating meat anytime soon. I can agree with some points of vegetarians lifestyle, but vegan, isn't that going a little too far?
@Eji: Is PETA's ultimate goal for everyone to go vegetarian? Because I'm sorry, but I'm a pretty dedicated omnivore here... #thenewsuperchicksisters
Yes, it is. Thankfully though, PETA is so extremist at times that nobody in any real position to do anything to support their agenda can take them seriously.
@Haruhila: I knew what you were saying, I was just stating my opinion. PETA is sometimes right, but more times than others, they are wrong. I'm not a fan of PETA either, but I was mainly replying what you had said about liberating animals. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@Vecha: One more Month: That's not what I said, I haven't begun to debate that.
As for eating mostly nuts and trail mixes, that's fine, as long as that's not the only thing in one's diet. That is unhealthy, of course you'll have weight issues. I wouldn't recommend to anybody to live chiefly on nuts and trail mix.
I was actually underweight because I could barely afford food before I went vegan. Now I can actually work out without having to worry if dying because I can barely support myself.
As for moderation, I completely agree. Drinking too much water can kill you. #thenewsuperchicksisters
Wasn't their an article on Kotaku about the water thing...lol
He didn't eat Just nuts. He ate ALOT of nuts. Like...eating 30 lbs of meat a month or whatever is too much.
I just find some vegans acting holier than thou alot...and your post hinted at that when you hint at saying meat is solely unhealthy. You didn't say it entirely...but it does hint at it.
@Wild Nanahara: Vegan diets usually get bad stigma from people who are not mindful of eating well while not eating animal products. A balanced Vegan diet is absolutely the healthiest (and most expensive) way to live. I've been vegetarian for a few years, while consuming mostly organic dairy (still a work in progress) and I can definitely feel a difference in mood and energy as well. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@ThisCharmingMan: Actually, it's not expensive at all if you do it right, and simply don't indulge - and that does not mean a compromise of tasty food, might I add.
I work part-time minimum wage, go to school, and pay for rent, amongst other things.
@Wild Nanahara: Actually you're right, that is bullshit. Because I was wrong it's not an amino acid. It's vitamin B12. Strict Vegans, those who don't eat eggs or milk in addition to not eating meat, end up having B12 deficiencies. In order to maintain proper levels of B12 you have to eat foods fortified (e.g. foods artificially enhanced with) B12 or take B12 supplements.
Also, without iodized salt, vegans often suffer from iodine deficiency causing goiter.
Vegan mothers are told to take iron, vit D and B12 supplements while pregnant in order to avoid having their children be malnourished in the womb. And B12 deficiencies in vegan mother's milk can causing neurological disorders in their nursing children.
Vegan diets are also associated with low birth weight in children.
All of these problems can be solved by one simple thing, eating meat.
@Vecha: One more Month: Right, you don't have to completely eliminate meat from your diet to eat healthier or feel better. A Vegan diet promotes an overall healthier diet so the health benefits are obvious, but you don't need to go totally meat free to achieve these benefits. As with most things in life it is MODERATION, or a lack there of, that causes problems. People in general don't eat enough fruits and or vegetables, and it is an over reliance on meat as a source of food and not anything inherently wrong with meat that causes peoples health problems. #thenewsuperchicksisters
@AOClaus: There's a reason as to why you can only naturally find B12 in meat these days. That is because humans don't eat from the Earth anymore, as they naturally did. Only other animals do.
Furthermore, the b12 found in meat isn't nearly as much as you actually need. Fortunately, for meat eaters, since meat isn't something we're supposed to be breaking down, it takes longer, and you'll have that b12 in reserve for a longer time than the B12 a Vegan would get from some form of fortified food or pill.
B12 comes from the Earth, and due to our food being shipped and process, it is also washed countless times, long before it gets to our kitchens, the traces of B12 in our produce are rendered negligible.
There are many forms of cancer and myriad of other illnesses and complications that can be prevented and solved by one simple thing, not eating meat.
@Wild Nanahara: You lost right when you said "meat isn't something we're supposed to be breaking down." Go to college, take anatomy and physiology, learn that the human body is an omnivorous.
@AOClaus: Hah, why don't you sit down and do some critical thinking when you're in class, and some extensive research. You're good at following America's set agenda for the "average citizen."
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This is not how you run a non-profit organization.
You are supposed to work toward things in peace and respect opinions. You are not supposed to dump red paint on people. That is BAD publicity. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Though, their chickens are only a little less roided and unnatural than the Yankees. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Huh? #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Screw you, Peta. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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hehe ;)
Don't eat the FLESH! #thenewsuperchicksisters
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1) Stomping on highly nutritious food sources (mushrooms)
2) Stomping on poor, misunderstood turtles.
3) Ocasionally wears fur coats (made from Tanookis)
4) Burns plants
5) Looks like current-day Pamela Anderson
6) Hasn't posed naked for a PETA ad campaign.
7) Fireballs aren't carbon-neutral.
8) Sometimes stomps turtles and beetles only to a)kick them into other turtles and beetles b)set them ricocheting back and forth endlessly for his own enjoyment or c)send them careening off of bottomless cliffs.
Really...what hasn't the guy done to piss PETA off? #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Score one for strange sources of nostalgia. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Though I do find it humorous to imagine that second screenshot taking place with people as one of those 50's informational vids. I mean think about it... the big bird is telling the baby bird that he might be slaughtered and eaten, with the tone of a documentary. It might go something like this:
Hey Billy! Say, did you know that there are cannibals out there who would nothing more than to tear out your still beating heart and consume it. They say it gives them magical powers. Unfortunately they don't use humane methods like anesthesia, so it is quite a painful process to endure. Please, help us by doing your part to fight the cannibals! #thenewsuperchicksisters
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That being said there still really delicious #thenewsuperchicksisters
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I've also heard that dog meat is actually quite delicious, although it's not your average golden retriever or Chihuahua that's getting cooked here, but some sort of mutt that's bred to be fed. It's popular in some Asian countries, in any case. #thenewsuperchicksisters
11/12/09
Also, you must be aware that animals can feel pain and suffer, or are you as far removed from empathic feeling as you let on? I completely disagree with PETA's style and the company as a whole, but that doesn't mean that just because one group for animal rights is full of mouthbreathing idiots that it completely nullifies their point. Animals may not be as intelligent as you or I, but that doesn't give us the right to blatantly oppress them and market their suffering.
And don't go on the "explain what these canine teeth are for" shtick that so many people harp on about. Meat eating isn't a necessity, it's a luxury. Humans have the means to eat meat, sure, but humans also have the means to rape, murder, and follow leaders blindly but you don't hear rapists saying "explain what the reptilian part of our brain is for" in defense of their actions. #thenewsuperchicksisters
11/13/09
Here goes...
1) Yes, intelligence (or a reasonable emotive emulation of it) matters a great deal in dealing with lesser species of the animal kingdom. Your later correlation is a bit strange and irrelavent however... unless you are saying you want to eat people with mental handicaps?
2) You are somewhat correct about my lack of empathy in that I don't care if a cow, pig, or chicken suffers. That doesn't occlude me from the capacity to do so with more worthy creatures but I always remember that we rule this planet, not them.
3) If you think the consumption of protein is merely a privilege, then you either need to do more research or eat more meat and get smarter. If our ancestors from the stone age had the same outlook you do, we probably wouldn't even be capable of having this conversation.
Hm. Well, I kind of cheated with some contractions. No matter. Now let me add a little of my own flavor with a more thought provoking discussion. There may or may not be an answer in here to the topic as stated, but I find this to be more stimulating for the brain pocket than the moralistic bleeding heart "how could you be so cold, animals have feelings" nonsense.
Let's talk about lions. Lions are what are called obligatory carnivores. They receive no nutrition from eating plants, only meat. However they also toy with and brutally murder their prey, possibly due to their predatory instincts. This practice seems unnecessary as they are quite capable of quickly and efficiently capturing their prey. Is this behavior intentional or simply because they don't know any better?
Let's come back to humans. We may have evolved to be omnivores, but such an evolution would have been out of adaptation. We are still predators. We are still biologically built for a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, even though we have technologically outgrown it in some areas of the world. Our bodies store and keeps fat, and when there are no calories to burn, metabolism slows. The fat is rationed as temporary nourishment under the assumption that food sources may not become available for a long time. Incidentally, this is why crash diets do not work.
So perhaps due to our innate predatory nature and hunter-gatherer biology, eating meat is as psychologically beneficial as it is physically. Is this intentional, or do we just not know any better?
Damn. Long post again. So much for that whole brevity thing... #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Chickens don't bleed! We all know they they hatch perfectly cut, boneless meat ready for consumption! #thenewsuperchicksisters
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"they use an outdated method of slaughter"
Because slaughter is a-ok as long as you're using the most modern method. :D #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Saying, "They use an outdated method..." Leads one to think, "Oh, they should update their method."
Of course, the post was also being sarcastic...because we all know PETA is against everything having to do with Meat. ;)
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Obviously I didn't think of it that way. In address to Mact, on this subject, I think it is abundantly cleart that I have no sense of humor on this subject.
I don't support PETA 100%, all guns blazing, but I respect what they do, and it's often hard to not side with them when most people who hate their actions, and the group as a whole, for major misconceptions, and all out ignorance. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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I support what they do for animal treatment...I can't support them for their crazy attitudes towards people who eat meat. Just can't. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Is PETA's ultimate goal for everyone to go vegetarian? Because I'm sorry, but I'm a pretty dedicated omnivore here... #thenewsuperchicksisters
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I suppose you could take some kind of supplement but that wouldn't be natural now would it?
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By using certain words, you force people to feel certain emotions regarding a particular subject. It's subtle, but it works.
I'd imagine this is why PETA have been trying so hard to rename fish into 'sea kittens'. People think much more kindly of kittens than they do fish. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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source: sociology class
edit: By no means are we going to stop now. Animals (I'm going theological here so stop reading if you don't care) were created by God, and put on this Earth for several reasons. I was going to go on and on about why He put them here, but I can't find any. All I read was in Genesis that said he put them here to be here, and the humans could have plants.
I am done being theological.
On the other hand, we do need this one amino acid that comes only from eating meat, so we must; and I'm not about to stop eating meat anytime soon. I can agree with some points of vegetarians lifestyle, but vegan, isn't that going a little too far?
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So, if you ate meat...you'd be unhealthy.
You believe you can not be healthy if you ever eat meat?
Moderation is key.
My grandfater was a vegetarian for a while. Ate lots of nuts and trail mixes.
Had a weight issue.
Moderation is key. For everything. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Yes, it is. Thankfully though, PETA is so extremist at times that nobody in any real position to do anything to support their agenda can take them seriously.
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Who are they?
PETA?
Any what do you mean, "mine is"?
So...if you ate meat...you'd automatically become unhealthy?
I think you can have just as healthy a diet if you focused on moderation as I said.
I really don't see one as better than the other. You can become unhealthy in both.
My point is this: Don't be a douche bag on both sides. Don't insult Vegans. Vegans don't insult meat eaters. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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As for eating mostly nuts and trail mixes, that's fine, as long as that's not the only thing in one's diet. That is unhealthy, of course you'll have weight issues. I wouldn't recommend to anybody to live chiefly on nuts and trail mix.
I was actually underweight because I could barely afford food before I went vegan. Now I can actually work out without having to worry if dying because I can barely support myself.
As for moderation, I completely agree. Drinking too much water can kill you. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Wasn't their an article on Kotaku about the water thing...lol
He didn't eat Just nuts. He ate ALOT of nuts. Like...eating 30 lbs of meat a month or whatever is too much.
I just find some vegans acting holier than thou alot...and your post hinted at that when you hint at saying meat is solely unhealthy. You didn't say it entirely...but it does hint at it.
Nothing wrong with your diet at all however. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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I work part-time minimum wage, go to school, and pay for rent, amongst other things.
Buying organic only, seems to be the expensive thing. #thenewsuperchicksisters
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Also, without iodized salt, vegans often suffer from iodine deficiency causing goiter.
Vegan mothers are told to take iron, vit D and B12 supplements while pregnant in order to avoid having their children be malnourished in the womb. And B12 deficiencies in vegan mother's milk can causing neurological disorders in their nursing children.
Vegan diets are also associated with low birth weight in children.
All of these problems can be solved by one simple thing, eating meat.
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Furthermore, the b12 found in meat isn't nearly as much as you actually need. Fortunately, for meat eaters, since meat isn't something we're supposed to be breaking down, it takes longer, and you'll have that b12 in reserve for a longer time than the B12 a Vegan would get from some form of fortified food or pill.
B12 comes from the Earth, and due to our food being shipped and process, it is also washed countless times, long before it gets to our kitchens, the traces of B12 in our produce are rendered negligible.
There are many forms of cancer and myriad of other illnesses and complications that can be prevented and solved by one simple thing, not eating meat.
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