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Bioshock 2 Will Explore Other Philosophies, More Moral Choices

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Comatose Turtle
06/10/09

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That's all terribly vague, and I'm pretty sure I've heard that same line many times before. "Our game will give you difficult decisions and make you really think about the meaning of life," yadda yadda. Not to mention their track record is not fantastic. We'll see.
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MaxDragon7
06/10/09

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Moral choice of the ages: Cake or Pie?

That being said, I'm glad the story is being held in the same standards. Bioshock's story was great.
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(DEAD) Goldwings - Remembered for his bravery and heroism... xD
06/10/09

@MaxDragon7: Do we always have to go through this nonsense?

Cake > pie (unless it's blueberry or pecan) ;)

Guns loaded to any who cracks a "cake is a lie joke."
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MaxDragon7
06/10/09

@Goldwings: Forgot why his avatar is a creepy looking, smili...: I'm all for pie on this one. Cakes are too pasty and artificial!

Yes, even though you have that gun prepped for what I am about to say...

The cake is a.. wait, I don't feel so good...

Oh, ugh, argh!!

*collapses to the floor*

"FAUX...

...DIE!"

*Dies of FauxDie virus*
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Komrade Kayce
06/10/09

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Jack Ryan? Was that the name of the faceless protagonist I was playing as?

...I always wondered...

Does that mean that Jack is Andrews son, and I missed out on a MAJOR chunk of the plot somewhere? Cause I've got everything else sorted out... him being an experiment that was let go and came back 'Would you kindly?' and all that jazz. But I dunna remember any connection to old man Andrew.
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InertGlasses
06/10/09

@Komrade Kayce - Soviet Attack Dog: Obvious troll is obvious?
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Komrade Kayce
06/10/09

@InertGlasses:

Uhhhh what?

@Goldenboy666: @TOWER_JUNKIE:

See, I got all the scientist experimentation part, and even the affair with the one dancer (you go into her room at one point, right? I remember a lot of bunny masks in that area), but didn't catch anything about Jack being the name of the main character, and Andrews son.

Looks like I'll have to finally put some effort into my no-vita chamber/hard mode playthrough (going for Brass Balls) and pay more attention this time. Thanks guys.
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Pepe Tinn
06/10/09

@Komrade Kayce - Soviet Attack Dog: OMG. You are kidding.... Right?

[bioshock.wikia.com]
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Komrade Kayce
06/10/09

@Pepe Tinn:

No. I somehow missed out on this completely. Wow. I mean, it WAS over a year and a half ago since I last played it, but yeah. Totally not in my memory banks. Those pictures, yes, but not the Jack/Andrew connection. Hell, I didn't even know the main character was named Jack at all!
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Omnimon
06/10/09

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Would you please pass that game this direction?
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hobbykitjr
06/10/09

@Omnimon: I think you mean "would you kindly..."
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Omnimon
06/10/09

@hobbykitjr: It would have been more clever if that were what I meant. :( I just want the game.
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Pombar
06/10/09

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I was hoping that if alternative ideologies would be seen/documented in Rapture, they'd resemble the post-Rand objectivist schools, since they're just as easily taken apart, but for a variety of different and interesting reasons.
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winshape
06/10/09

@Pombar: It would also be interesting to see alternate views of liberalism, socialism, etc.
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Pombar
06/10/09

@winshape: True. Fascism would be a bit dull, we all know the inherent flaws in radical right-wing views. Objectivism was about the only area of the far right that hadn't been explored, and Bioshock did it well. So yeah, I'd be open to a deconstruction of the radical left in turn - it just perhaps wouldn't make as much sense that someone had chosen to live in Rapture, an Objectivist paradise, if they were a socialist or some such.
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(Zombie) Kermad
06/10/09

@Pombar: .......hmm.....YEAH!!! BIOSHOCK!!!!!
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Pombar
06/10/09

@Kermad: I AGREE!!!!
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Hey_Blinkon
06/10/09

@Pombar: Fascism is national socialism. It's not actually a right wing stance, aside from the fact that racism/nationalism are in the mix.
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Pombar
06/10/09

@Hey_Blinkon: Except that Hitler expunged all the left-wing Nazis from his party when Rohm and the SA were removed, since they were the only real socialists within the party. The remaining Nazis were essentially nationalist fascists in all but name.
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Hey_Blinkon
06/10/09

@Pombar: That's fine, but if that was the case Hitler != actual fascist.
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Pombar
06/10/09

@Hey_Blinkon: But what you're confusing is Fascist and Nazi. They are not synonyms. Fascism is much more easily relatable to Mussolini's regime than Hitler's, though the Nazis did take a lot from fascism.

Modern socialist parties don't have anything in common with 20th or 21st century fascism, anyway. Compare the socialist parties in Sweden and Spain to the ongoing Italian fascist movement.
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Hey_Blinkon
06/10/09

@Pombar: Hmmm... I think we agree but aren't communicating well. Sorry.
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Pombar
06/10/09

@Hey_Blinkon: Hah, yeah, I was starting to suspect it. That's the internet for us, I guess.
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(Zombie) Jölan
06/10/09

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I shall remain cautiously optimistic.
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Str8_Jihadin
06/10/09

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Witcher-style, just the way I like it.
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