Why has League of Legends received the coverage it has on Kotaku while its pseudo competitor Heroes of Newerth is ignored completely. Granted it's still in beta but that's not really an excuse to ignore it.
League of Legends is a DotA spin off. Casual DotA players will probably enjoy it but more serious players will prefer Heroes of Newerth which is pretty much DotA 2.0. If you enjoy DotA and aren't 100% opposed to some things changing (ie losing some of the hero base, new heroes, some item changes but largely the items are exact ports, some changes in the skills of heroes ported over) then you'll enjoy HoN. It might be tough to get a beta invite but if you can track one down it'll be worth it. If not it's probably not that far from release now, they just added two more heroes making the total 59 heroes and it's predicted the game will launch with 60 heroes.
So about another month for the last hero then probably 2-3 more months of beta for balancing and tweaks.
@-MasterDex-: I was a bit disappointed with DoWII. The intimate, tactical battles just didn't gel with me the way the epically, over-the-top battles of the first game did.
The first captured the spirit of the Warhammer 40k universe in all it's bloody, violent, glory; the second sort of turned it into these small-scale skirmishes... which just seems like it misses the point.
@McWarrior: I enjoyed it for that very reason. I always keep Dawn of War and all the expansions on my PC and play them regularly so Dawn of War II was a breath of fresh air for me.
Having said that, I'd love to see a 40k game featuring a comprehensive roster of armies and units and gameplay taken straight from the rulebook, rule for rule, stat for stat. That would be epic.
@-MasterDex-: there was a 40k game a fair few years bag based upon the old school epic stuff, it was called final liberation, had army points, huge and diverse armys, everything from scouts to titans and gargants and was turn based to boot, quite possibly the best 40k game ive ever played
@TetsuBo: The game DrFumbles is talking about was indeed based upon the Epic you linked. You could get titans and everything. It even had hilarious live action cutscenes.
@-MasterDex-: Agreed, something like DoW but with a greater scope, including titans etc. I mentioned an idea I had a couple of comments above this discussion, with a potential DoW3 having both DoW & DoW2 styles of gameplay, with potentially both playing co-op on the same map at the same time. A third tier of magnification, zooming out to see a larger battlefield with Titans, Gargants etc would be amazing.
And because I'm a sucker for it, I'd love the largest scale to include voice commands. Ordering a few squads to advance with a right click while speaking the command for a titan bombardment of the building or CP I'm advancing on would guarantee me buying a new PC to cope.
@McWarrior: To be fair, base building isn't part of the 40k canon, it's all about orbital drops, planet based fortresses or teleportation when it comes to battle.
In DOW2, the depiction of Space Marines (and therefore other races) is far more accurate. A single SM really can take on hordes of enemies and although it is a smaller scale, which is a bit of a shame, it enabled Relic to steer truer to the reference material.
I've started to really get into the Valve titles recently, picking up orange box and both L4D's, my PC, it isnt low end, but its certainly no gaming rig, straight out the box HP pavillion with a £50 graphics card.
All the games i've downloaded off steam recently have run on full spec wonderfully.
I'm becoming a PC gamer I think, and a lot of people are coming over to that side just because of the myths that you have to upgrade every day for £1000000 are dispelling.
I have my PC for RTS, FPS and puzzle games, then my ps3 for others.
If I want to play a wii titles I can just visit my girlfriend and play at hers as mines still broken at the moment.
All together, I think I've got it pretty sweet this gen.
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@supo: Wolfenstein shouldn't be on ANY holiday buyer's guide. Let Raven take some punishment for half-assing two sequels in a row to two different fantastic series from Id.
@supo: Not sure which team works on whatever game they're developing, but I'm not planning on purchasing Singularity because of Wolfenstein. Particularly, how they bombed the multi-player. (Yes, I realize they outsourced it)
How providential, Kotaku - just in time for my new laptop (which arrives today, yay). I want something current to test its chops - so I'll probably spring for Empire: TW or DA: Origins or Borderlands. Likely Empire, since, as the guide says - it'll last years.
Saying the multiplayer of Wolfenstein is a "disappointment" is a compliment. It is horrendous and has a non existent community. Horrible horrible horrible.
The single player is great however and that is the one and only reason to buy the game. Although you may want to wait until after Christmas for it to hit the bargain bin of $20 bucks.
With no dedicated servers, multiplayer games have been on the deathbed since release, rumours suggest Codemasters are working on adding dedis back in. No freelook in vehicles killed it for me though. A military shooter that puts you in a neck brace when in the driving seat is not a good thing. Get Arma II instead. At this point it's just as buggy as OpFlash (better than it was but still buggy) and other than the lack of polish, it's a better game.
@-MasterDex-: Yeah I'm surprised with the stick MW2 got that they put that up there.
Game dropped off the top 40 played charts faster than a rock from space.
@deanbmmv: Yeah, I bought it for singleplayer primarily but the lack of freelook in vehicles just pissed me off. There was something else missing from it as well but for the life of me I can't remember what it was...was it lean?
@-MasterDex-: Remember when Resistance came out? I remember scouring that one Czech site for mods, then Resistance came out and had almost everything I wanted-- including the exceptional pedal bicycle, which-- inexplicably-- has better off-road capability than any other land vehicle.
Chaos Space Marines were once loyal to the Emperor and to the Imperium. To put things in "perspective", Space Marines are much like the knights of medieval times. They were the exemplars, the elite, the best that humanity had to offer. 10,000 years prior to the main storyline of Warhammer 40,000, the Emperor had embarked on a great crusade to re-unite the galaxy and all of the lost human worlds. He created a dozen or so "Primarchs", supersoldiers that were based on his own DNA (the Emperor is immortal). The dark gods of the Warp - an alternate dimension used for FTL transit in between worlds - did not approve of this and scattered the Primarchs through the galaxy while they were still neonatal. Each Primarch grew to superhuman proportions and rose to be a leader of the world that they had been taken to. Chief among them was Horus. Meanwhile, the Emperor had used the Primarchs as the basic template for creating legions of super-soldiers, now known as Space Marines. Long story short, some of the neonatal Primarchs were touched by the Chaos Gods and slowly became corrupt. Horus - who rose to become the Warmaster of the Great Crusades and the Emperor's most trusted - fell ill on a world recently conquered and he became seduced by the Chaos Gods. Ultimately, over half of the Space Marine Legions turned to Chaos and fought against their own kind in what's now known in the game as the "Horus Heresy". They were barely defeated at the cost of the Emperor's life and they retreated into a realspace-warp space interface known as the "Eye of Terror". The Space Marines you play with in Dawn of War are centuries old and use the latest technologies the Imperium have to offer. But the Chaos Space Marines...most of them have lived on since the Horus Heresy 10,000 years prior to the main story setting because of the corrupting influence of Chaos. Chaos Marines have the benefit of millennia of combat expertise as well as being gifted with dark magics and even demonic possession.
@Courteous_Gentleman: I'll be honest, DoW2 always irritated me. I didn't care much for its small scale and Relic-style balancing (Relic-style being hopelessly-unbalanced-forever-style). Bad balance never bothered me in DoW1, but the current state of DoW2 is making blobs of melee troops for victory. Here's the part where I feel like a fanboy:
Including tau would totally make me overlook this and make me play this game.
In my opinion, Dawn of war 2 was a great single player game and a very flawed multiplayer game.
They took a great idea for the RTS game - focusing on combat and micromanagement - and spoiled it with certain game mechanics.
Certain game mechanics that make some units hard counters to other units. For those who don't know what that means, it means rock paper scissors.
I hope they overhaul the multiplayer in this expansion for soft counters over hard counters. That would mean certain units are effective against certain units, but superior micromanagement can even the odds for the player with the paper vs the one with the scissors.
Ehhh as much as I'm looking forward to this and most likely will buy it, I wish they had gone with a different race to be re-introduced. I'm not a big DoW buff so I dunno all the intracies of the races and such or if the story would even allow some of them, but I think the Necross would have been a better fit with how different they are from the current 4 races in place. Something MAJORLY different, I mean don't the chaos marines act a lot like regular marines in terms of their technology and style? Just more destructive and brutal, sort of a mid point between the space marines and Orks right?
Like I said though I'm not fully in-touch with how all the races work or their story so I may be wrong.
@Armagetiton: Choas is much older tech, as they have had few upgrades since the Horus Heresy. What they do have, as you said, is a lot of Warp-spawned units, such as demons, as well as some demonic tech. They also have the advantage of larger chapter sizes and swarms of mindless cultists who run interference or undermine planets before the main force arrives.
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League of Legends is a DotA spin off. Casual DotA players will probably enjoy it but more serious players will prefer Heroes of Newerth which is pretty much DotA 2.0. If you enjoy DotA and aren't 100% opposed to some things changing (ie losing some of the hero base, new heroes, some item changes but largely the items are exact ports, some changes in the skills of heroes ported over) then you'll enjoy HoN. It might be tough to get a beta invite but if you can track one down it'll be worth it. If not it's probably not that far from release now, they just added two more heroes making the total 59 heroes and it's predicted the game will launch with 60 heroes.
So about another month for the last hero then probably 2-3 more months of beta for balancing and tweaks.
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The first captured the spirit of the Warhammer 40k universe in all it's bloody, violent, glory; the second sort of turned it into these small-scale skirmishes... which just seems like it misses the point.
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Having said that, I'd love to see a 40k game featuring a comprehensive roster of armies and units and gameplay taken straight from the rulebook, rule for rule, stat for stat. That would be epic.
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And because I'm a sucker for it, I'd love the largest scale to include voice commands. Ordering a few squads to advance with a right click while speaking the command for a titan bombardment of the building or CP I'm advancing on would guarantee me buying a new PC to cope.
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In DOW2, the depiction of Space Marines (and therefore other races) is far more accurate. A single SM really can take on hordes of enemies and although it is a smaller scale, which is a bit of a shame, it enabled Relic to steer truer to the reference material.
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And the battles in 40k involve thousands, if not millions of soldiers in battles on a planetary scale - not small engagements.
For it to be "accurate", they'd never be able to add the Imperial Guard because their equivalent troops would fill the whole map.
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All the games i've downloaded off steam recently have run on full spec wonderfully.
I'm becoming a PC gamer I think, and a lot of people are coming over to that side just because of the myths that you have to upgrade every day for £1000000 are dispelling.
I have my PC for RTS, FPS and puzzle games, then my ps3 for others.
If I want to play a wii titles I can just visit my girlfriend and play at hers as mines still broken at the moment.
All together, I think I've got it pretty sweet this gen.
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Also, I played Zuma for the first time last night and uh... good god that was one fun puzzle game.
There's a decent number of games missing from the list and well... some games that shouldn't be on the list like Wolfenstein.
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I guess it depends on what sites you frequent, but unless Kotaku is your only source for information in the world, that's not true at all.
Also, I heard the LoL community is completely impenetrable to anyone who wasn't already an ranking expert at DOTA. T/F?
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Oh, yeah, dang. Well, that's what you get when you put a pronoun and the noun to which it refers in separate paragraphs.
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The single player is great however and that is the one and only reason to buy the game. Although you may want to wait until after Christmas for it to hit the bargain bin of $20 bucks.
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DOWII
Empire: Total War
Dragon Age: Origins
Stay away from:
Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
With no dedicated servers, multiplayer games have been on the deathbed since release, rumours suggest Codemasters are working on adding dedis back in. No freelook in vehicles killed it for me though. A military shooter that puts you in a neck brace when in the driving seat is not a good thing. Get Arma II instead. At this point it's just as buggy as OpFlash (better than it was but still buggy) and other than the lack of polish, it's a better game.
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Game dropped off the top 40 played charts faster than a rock from space.
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Still working on my first play through and I haven't been disappointed yet.
Other than that, pretty slim pickings it seems.
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And as far as Google tells me, it's not even a cut and paste job. Well done, sir/ma'am.
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Including tau would totally make me overlook this and make me play this game.
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They took a great idea for the RTS game - focusing on combat and micromanagement - and spoiled it with certain game mechanics.
Certain game mechanics that make some units hard counters to other units. For those who don't know what that means, it means rock paper scissors.
I hope they overhaul the multiplayer in this expansion for soft counters over hard counters. That would mean certain units are effective against certain units, but superior micromanagement can even the odds for the player with the paper vs the one with the scissors.
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Like I said though I'm not fully in-touch with how all the races work or their story so I may be wrong.
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Space marines are also more efficient in tactics - while chaos is just that, chaos.
I'm sure the only thing chaos marines and space marines will have in common in this game will be the basic marine squad.
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