i just finished bioshock for the first time. i had been holding off for a long while, so i could devote all my proper attention to it. my god, i was floored. levine + team = genius. i heard good things, but uh, i hadn't been this enraptured by a game in years...
@Archaotic: Well now I'm hoping it'll be sooooooooooo shootery so that you'll totally get angry and pout just so I get to experience that rage and see you lose it. These bags of popcorn kernels are saved for those kinds of things.
Shooter yes, but this is Levine's group we're talking about. How dare you even think that it'll just be just another "shooter" and not some sort of FPS-Wii party game hybrid of epic proportions? Surely they have something like that in the works, unless you knew that and are just leading us away from the possibilities (you sly dogs).
BTW that picture doesn't seem right at all. It looks like Mr. Levine just refused to sit in front of the white screen and turned his whole chair left, so after tireless of hours of begging and negotiating from the cameraman/camera woman to turn back in front of the screen, he/she gave up and took the picture as it is.
ZOMFG ITZ KEN LEVINE!!!1!111
/end absurd butchering of the English language in favour of excitement...
That's right Americans, I put a "u" in favour, what you gonna do?
@OspreyDawn: We will stop this you use of British English. We will do our fellow commenters a favor by stopping this argument. We will analyze, criticize, and memorize every difference. We will catalog and check every word. We must honor "American" English in all its color.
@Michael Dukakis - Mets fan: To quote the honourable and glorious John Cleese:
"To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1. You should look up revocation in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up aluminium. Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix ize will be replaced by the suffix ise. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.
Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up vocabulary. Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed. There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.
2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize.
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney,upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as Taggart will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is Devon. If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become shires e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.
4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.
5. You should relearn your original national anthem, God Save The Queen but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.
6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders,your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called rounders, which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.
7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called Indecisive Day.
9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time,you will go metric with immediate effect and conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.
11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.
12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer,and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. The substances formerly known as American Beer will henceforth be referred to as Near-Frozen Knat's Urine,with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine. This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen,Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.
13. From November 10th the UK will harmonise petrol (or Gasoline, as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon- get used to it).
14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.
15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.
16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).
Thank you for your co-operation and have a great day."
I like that last quote from David Jaffe (even though very often I don't like what he says :-)). I am all for the trend seeking to make games an art form, and have them contain more emotional meaning, and so forth... but at the end of the day, we must not forget that video games are a form of entertainment. We also need those games that provide that escape, just pure unadulterated fun.
Again, I'm also very supportive of the artsy games trend. I loved Braid, but when I see Jonathan Blow and other developers calling all other games "infantile" and "immature", I can't help but think they are a little out of touch. Just as in the movies, there's space for both kind of games. And just as in the movies, it is often the action packed, fat on entertainment, lean on 'meaning' that sell better. Why? Because more often than not, we go to video games seeking entertainment. Of course, in the case of movies, there are a few gems that have been able to pack both things at the same time (like "The Godfather"). We're still waiting for that gem in video games :-)
The Summer Blockbuster experience is basically dead these days. The magic and wonder of movies is gone. Before the Internet you didn't really know what expect when you watched a blockbuster movie, just what the trailer showed. You were left in awe as you wondered how that stunt or special effect was done. These days we know the plot before hand. We know it's all done with computers. It's all so shallow. I'm so glad I grew up in the late 70's and 80's and got to experience the golden age of the Hollywood Blockbuster.
Haha...except that Roy Scheider isn't the one who pulls the license plate out of the tiger shark's guts. It's Richard Dreyfuss' Hooper. Way to misremember, Jaffe. ;)
Σ(゜д゜;) So the fanboys and trolls were right all video games are just a ripoff of movies and other games ^_^
Emotional resonance is something that games are still wrestling with
I find it pretty damn hard to feel any attachment for any character in a video game except for those in Ico,SotC and FFX especially now with all this heavy action games and all.
@Curse_Lily: I think most games are slim on the emotional resonance because it's a lot easier to make you feel other things such as fear, anxiety, excitement, etc. These things can be manufactured immediately while any sort of serious emotional reaction requires a much longer/more intricate setup. It can be done and has been done very well in past (you've already provided the examples), but it's riskier and doesn't always pay off. It's a shame, really.
It's funny how being able to change facial expressions has been huge in game development for a while now, but it doesn't seem that our characters display any more emotion than they always have(n't).
I loves me a good blockbuster, but sometimes the rote dependence on blockbuster cliches has wounded otherwise solid games (Looking at you Killzone 2). Gaming's solid audience and surrounding culture aren't a luxury most other art forms have, so I just hope that developers like Ken Levine and the Bioware crew keep making their explosions smarter, if they need them at all.
I would also be interested to see which "Cult Classic" movies have exerted an overly influential shadow on gaming. The movie to come to mind is "Blade Runner".
@gold163 (° д° ): Your statement does not compute. You state that we need more games like T2, but then you say we need more movies like T2. You're contradicting yourself...
Do you perhaps mean that we need more games that mimic the storyline and scenarios that were created by James Cameron in the movie T2, where you're Edward Furlong or Arnie?
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08/10/09
Hopefully it's NOT X-COM, now, so I don't have to feel bad about ignoring it.
08/10/09
08/10/09
BTW that picture doesn't seem right at all. It looks like Mr. Levine just refused to sit in front of the white screen and turned his whole chair left, so after tireless of hours of begging and negotiating from the cameraman/camera woman to turn back in front of the screen, he/she gave up and took the picture as it is.
08/10/09
/end absurd butchering of the English language in favour of excitement...
That's right Americans, I put a "u" in favour, what you gonna do?
08/10/09
08/10/09
08/10/09
08/11/09
"To the citizens of the United States of America, in the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
1. You should look up revocation in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up aluminium. Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix ize will be replaced by the suffix ise. You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.
Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up vocabulary. Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up interspersed. There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.
2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of -ize.
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney,upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as Taggart will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is Devon. If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become shires e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.
4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.
5. You should relearn your original national anthem, God Save The Queen but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.
6. You should stop playing American football. There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American football is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays American football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders,your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called rounders, which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.
7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called Indecisive Day.
9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time,you will go metric with immediate effect and conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.
11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.
12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer,and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. The substances formerly known as American Beer will henceforth be referred to as Near-Frozen Knat's Urine,with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine. This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen,Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.
13. From November 10th the UK will harmonise petrol (or Gasoline, as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon- get used to it).
14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.
15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.
16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).
Thank you for your co-operation and have a great day."
08/11/09
07/13/09
Again, I'm also very supportive of the artsy games trend. I loved Braid, but when I see Jonathan Blow and other developers calling all other games "infantile" and "immature", I can't help but think they are a little out of touch. Just as in the movies, there's space for both kind of games. And just as in the movies, it is often the action packed, fat on entertainment, lean on 'meaning' that sell better. Why? Because more often than not, we go to video games seeking entertainment. Of course, in the case of movies, there are a few gems that have been able to pack both things at the same time (like "The Godfather"). We're still waiting for that gem in video games :-)
07/13/09
07/13/09
07/13/09
07/13/09
Emotional resonance is something that games are still wrestling with
I find it pretty damn hard to feel any attachment for any character in a video game except for those in Ico,SotC and FFX especially now with all this heavy action games and all.
07/13/09
It's funny how being able to change facial expressions has been huge in game development for a while now, but it doesn't seem that our characters display any more emotion than they always have(n't).
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07/13/09
This scene especially are pretty emotional
Yuna sending ritual at kilika Village
The farplane scene at guadosalam
The scene at Al Bhed when they teld tidus about Summoners fate at the end of their
journeys
the romantic scene after the battle with seymour natus
I can go on and on, if you didn't like the game fine but to me this game was excellent.
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Now, I want to know why "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and "Dirty Dancing" have not caused incredible changes in the gaming world.
Because, we need more games like them.
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I would also be interested to see which "Cult Classic" movies have exerted an overly influential shadow on gaming. The movie to come to mind is "Blade Runner".
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07/13/09
Do you perhaps mean that we need more games that mimic the storyline and scenarios that were created by James Cameron in the movie T2, where you're Edward Furlong or Arnie?
07/13/09