another reason get an iPhone? hhahahaa

Microsoft's (apple/win) enemy or Sony's (psp/iphone)?!

SMB seems to be running quite slow, too. I would have liked to have actually heard and seen it in action.

I cant belive that kotaku has sunk to the lowest level of fanboyism:

Apple fanboys.

Neat.... though the idea of having a six hundred dollar handheld gaming platform for an NES game isn't really that much of a selling point.

This is kinda cool, but I had NES and SNES emulators working on my Motorolla Mpx200 back in 2003.

The controller interface is neat, but I don't know...just visit one of those web emulator sites instead.

This is rather cool actually, though I'll admit it looks like SMB was running at half speed. I think it'd be far cooler if someone can create a mini external controller for it and run the games at full speed/full screen. That would be a nice invention indeed. As someone who just bought his first ipod this week, I have to say I'm falling in love with apple products...and that's a scary thing indeed.

I know this is just a first release, and the emulation will get tighter down the line, but there is one thing this iPhone-NES will never have - buttons.

Why does the "right" on the Dpad seem to remain stuck after the guy presses it?

Seems way too slow to be usable, might be a debug build? (didn't read the hands on...)

Why are we obsessed about getting games from a 20-year-old system on the world's latest and greatest phone?

Um... It's not the worlds greatest phone... It's Americas most over hyped phone.

I got to agree with BALLS187. This is nothing new, I've got a working NES emulator on my 2-3 year old mobile phone, which I find to be nothing special. But since thhis is regarding an Apple product, it's headline news. I guess the gizmodo team have converted kotaku to Apple fanboys too :p

...the world's latest and greatest phone

What? No...What?

@Roxeraz: What would be *REALLY* bad ass, would be porting an Apple 2E emulator and playing Oregon Trail on the iPhone.

That would be tits mcgee!

the apple haters come in herds.. I used to be you, then I actually did my homework on apple years ago... So when I looked back yelling "haha, sucks to be you Mac guy.... hold that thought, while i reboot my PC it um locked up, dammit... gotta reformat again, whoops, another upgrade on the way"... I can laugh, for I, too, was ignorant. Apple iPhone isn't the greatest product, but quit yer bitchin' ppl!!!

A touch screen can never properly emulate a controller. Therefore, go back to your PSP hax, hey its has buttons!

In case any of you peoples have not seen this. Article about the iphone (and your face) being an overhyped piece of shit...

[www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net]

@domerdel:
I love reading Apple converts talk about how hassle some their old PCs were. What caused it to lock up? Did you drool on the motherboard or something?

my nokia 6620, psp, ds and gba all do this and all 4 combined is still cheaper then the jesus phone

My 2 year old Palm Treo 650 had a magnificent emulator that supported NES, SNES, Sega Master System, Genesis, Game Gear, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Wonder Swan...blah blah etc. Understandingly, this is a new program, but (at the time) so was the one for my Treo and it ran circles around this one.

We get it: you guys think the iPhone is overrated. Congratulations. Now can we go back to actually talking about stuff that, you know, has to do with the post?

It's the same deal with posts about prominent games, particularly Halo. Do you want a fucking medal for pointing out how little you care about something?

@Natural: Commercials with creepy talking hands will do that to them.

My blackjack can do SNES emulation.

Beat that, assphone.

@domerdel: I'm actually the complete opposite. Mac all my life and switched to a windows-based pc. There is no going back! The mac also has many annoying aspects, denying that fact is "ignorant" as well.

Anyways, that's but a 1/3 speed mockery of NES goodness. Fail!

Latest and greatest...hah, I'll stick my trusty motorola clamshell.

Yeah, I am by no means an Apple lover, but I think this is headlines worthy. I mean, "homebrew" on an iphone! Homebrew on any other item (PSP, iPod) gets a headline and Kotaku aren't supposed to cover this? O.G. games on the latest tech! I say hell yes!

of course, I do not own an iphone or plan on getting one. My PSP plays "homebrew" just fine, thankee.

@Toasticus: Honestly.

pretty lame Milhouse.

Why was the frame rate so slow when mario bros was playing?

Look cool but Im not down with playing that on a touch screen with no solid buttons, My Tmobile Wing can play SNES and I have actual buttons to press.

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Also cheaper than an iPhone

My Motorola Q can run a NES emulator and I only spent $100 dollars for my phone. Motorola Q > iPhone.

Wow, that looks terrible.

I used to play NES and SNES games on my PocketPC before I bricked it. I actually beat E.V.O. and Secret of Mana on a PocketPC, haha. But the interface was waaaaay better. You held the PocketPC sideways and would use the D-pad as a D-pad and then you would use on screen buttons. It wasn't perfect but at least you could move and run at the same time.

@jive238: Apparently, it's not a very well optimized emulator. I read (probably on the slashdot story) that they're still doing lots of work on the efficiency of the code, but it's fairly obvious that the emulation itself is working, which implies being able to do some fairly medium/low level stuff.

I think the implication that you can get from seeing this as opposed to some solitaire game is that the iPhone hackers are in fairly good control of the innards of the device now.

This would have been impressive in the year 2000, sadly though, it's not the year 2000.

$500 to play rough running NES games ... and they say the PSP is expensive.

@y2julio:

Correction: any smart phone > iShit

My guess is that the emulator can't detect two buttons being hit at the same time. That would explain why the right button sticks: the game wouldn't be playable otherwise as you would only be able to jump basically straight up. This may very likely be a limitation of the iPhone itself, I can't say as I've yet to play with one myself.

Still, it's always fun to see these types of mods, even if they are of questionable value.

I wonder what kind of 'loss' they are going to calculate on this one (majority of iphone users playing rom backups)

Its pretty ironic.. hack an xbox and your called a thief.

but look @ those nice hackers tinkering with the iphone...

More like slow motion.

@Fangeh: Iphones have a version of "multitouch" technology, but I don't think they can read more than 2 things at once. At any rate, this emu obviously supports only 1 press at a time, in other words, only good for board games/game show games. I'll stick with my Nokia 6682, it plays NES games at full speed (or much faster with frameskip) and it only cost $150.

@poematik14: O I C WAT U DID THARR. Very clever, replacing "Phone" with "Shit".

Speaking of shit, for those of you who aren't here to just shit on the thread, this is good news (okay, that was tangental at best, but seriously guys - if you don't like the phone, then don't buy one, but don't just fuck up a thread talking about how much you hate it). I was wondering if I'd be able to do homebrew stuff on my iPhone, and it looks like I can. This is nothing more than a test build - there could be a near-perfect NES emulator down the line.

@domerdel: Hmm, well when you refer to the "PC" you obviously neglect to think about the Linux releases. Which are by far more stable than anything Apple has done.

By definition a PC is a personal computer so that would refer to any computer running windows, linux, osX, etc.. So what is up with all those Apple ads dissin the PC. THE MAC IS A PC.

Some "Jesus Phone".. can't even run SMB properly.. for shame!

@Toasticus: See also: the comments in yesterday's article about the Halo 3 Zune Military Edition.

Anyway, of course the emulator is going to be slow. This is the starting version (a good start), after all. After some time, the speed will improve and maybe even the controls will be become satisfactory.

Oh, I almost forgot: iPwned sux olo

Jesus Christ. The comments, they make my eyes burn. This whole "Apple sucks" stuff is even worse than the console fanboy wars. Macs have advantages, Windows PCs have advantages, Linux has advantages. The iPhone has advantages, other phones have advantages. Same with iPods. Just use what works for you and don't assume that people are idiots because they come to different conclusions. Because if you do, you are the actual idiot.

@L_K_M: What advantage does the iPhone have? none.

@L_K_M: Please remind me what advantages Mac's have again?

Sigh.

Maybe it's just the angle in the video, but it sure looks like the B button is making Mario jump. I remember it being slightly different on an authentic NES.

This topic is becoming fun.

@Toasticus: ya know what...I have come to realize that the mark of any "good" piece of modern tech is when it can load a NES emulator.

It's a toaster? hmm... can it play NES roms?
It's a pace maker that has a lifetime of 500 active years and... we've be able to play super mario bros. on it.

Let us all agree that:

1) Mac Sucks
2) Windows Sucks
3) Sony Sucks
4) Nintendo Sucks
5) Microsoft Sucks

@y2julio: An UI that doesn't make you want to throw your fucking phone out of the window, take the lift down and jump on it until every motherfucking last part of it is destroyed. I've owned a lot of phones. All of them expensive. And I've hated every last one of them.

@yashichi8bit: It has no viruses, it's stable, it runs Microsoft Office, it runs all Unix-y stuff, it has a ton of great apps that have no equal on any other platform (iMovie, iDVD, Garage Band, Delicious Library, BBEdit, Mailsmith...), and if I want to, I can run Windows apps right among my Mac apps. They even get Mac-only stuff like Exposé, so I actually prefer running Windows apps on my Mac to running them on a plain Windows box. Oh, and it has a consistent UI.

Look, if you people seriously can't see that the iPhone or the Mac have advantages, you're stupid biased fanboys. Plain and simple.

Too slow.

Lethargic Mario Bros FTL. Mark Wilson not using a speaker for any of his videos FT double L.

I've put a message up on Dev's wiki asking about the hurdles you have to go through to even get this on your iPhone. After some serious google searching I found that it requires A LOT OF FUCKING WORK to get this emulator onto your iPhone.

You need to unlock the phone with jailbreak, and depending on your flavor of desktop, either use a 3rd party conduit, or a damned DOS BOX on a PC to move files around.

Until you can drag and drop these applets into iTunes to install them, I wouldn't bother trying, because you run the risk of borking your phone, losing functionality, creating a little annoyance when syncing, and losing it anyway come the next firmware upgrade...

That's just the tip of the iceberg of "HELP ME OH GOD PLEASE!" posts on the blog sites that detail the instructions for modding your iPhone and transferring non iTune compliant files to it.

There's a NES emulator for EVERYTHING

@halo00to14: WRONG!!!

1) Apple sucks
2) Mac sucks
3) Sony sucks
4) PS3 sucks
5) Microsoft sucks
6) Xbox360 sucks
5) Nintendo sucks
6) Wii sucks
7) Linux sucks
8) People who like linux suck
10) People who hate on microsoft simply because it's microsoft andits "cool" to hate microsoft suck.
11) America sucks
12) Everything else, sucks.
13) Refer to point 12.