Since I like quite a few codemasters titles, Ill be keeping an eye on this one.

Even though the trailers did look a little silly, but the whole "Red Dawn" with Nazi`s in America seems like fun! 8D

@Witzbold: I agree completely- a little silly, but it looks like fun.

Goddamn, Witz. You're everywhere.

The Silent Hill games have been the only ones in my experience to have "average" type main characters, not in character design quality but in the sense you're talking about here.

"Average" type lead characters don't belong in FPS games, because the whole point of FPS games is to mow down dozens of enemy soldiers. If the lead character in an FPS genuinely did have the average person's athleticism and weapon skill, that would be one frustrating game to play!

@ChickenOfTheSea: Making up for lost time since been real busy with work for the past 2 weeks.

No offense to this guy but wasn't this same exact premise of Freedom Fighters?

@Witzbold: I understand, but whenever I go back to the main Kotaku page, I see "Such-and-Such Article" drew comment from WITZBOLD. I see that little notification more frequently then I see new posts here.

Just saying.

How can I buy a game from a company who's CEO has never heard of the Civil War?

Also, are they ever coming out with that sequel to Freedom Fighters they announced a couple of years ago?

I saw this game on gamespot's coverage of e3, although I thought the premise would be cool the game doesn't stack up to call of duty's production values or game play. Despite the environment change, still looks like every other generic ww2 shooter.

And despite what the ceo says the game, at least from gamespot's e3 coverage, is extremely linear.

meh..... well see what happens

@Bohnc:
I was thinking the exact same thing, never really fought a war on our soil? Jesus Christ open a history book! My 3rd grade nephew knows about the Civil War, hell they even made a 360 game about it I think!

If anyone is interested in what I was talking about in my above post check out gamespot's live stage demo of it here [www.gamespot.com]

great enviroment, but not being able to explore it sucks =/

@Witzbold: think your spot on there, silly but fun. we need more games like that

First of all Mike, when you say "your average buy in extraordinary circumstances", don't you mean your average bi? I mean, the game is called "Turning Point" after all.
Second, as far as the "Everyman" is concerned... it is something that has never translated well over to games. The premise of most games are rightly situated somewhere between Sci-fi and Fantasy. If you were just an average guy then you wouldn't be able to do amazing things like... well anything you can do in a video game. Even the most mundane feats a video game character can perform are beyond the physical limitations of normal humans. It's like making a comic book character who is supposed to represent Joe Smith from down the block. You can do it, but it's easy to screw up and hard to do right. Name one example of a Harvey Pekar in video games. I'm glad studios are trying, but doing an understated everyman in a medium made for testing the limits of the human imagination is going to be difficult to pull off.
But if Spark Unlimited can make the main character in a game both an average guy... and bi? Now that would be ground breaking.

Err... The USA never fought a war on US soil. That's true. Because in this statement, it's usually meant as in "war against an outside agressor".
The civil war sure was a WAR, it just wasn't to fend of an outside force...

Revolutionary War
War of 1812
Civil war
World War II (Pearl Harbor, Battle of Attu)

Quite a lot of Battles on American soil. :/

@Bohnc:

Same way you were able to elect a president who doesn't know history

Hate to add to the off topic, but you should add the Spanish American War to that list. It was the last one as far as I know, if you don't count WWII. Pearl Harbor was more of a slaughter than a battle. There was also the Indian Wars, btw.

The start look cheesy because has aircraft that move a ridiculous fast speed, for the scale. This can be normal on a game that is not a flight simulator, but only after like 1 minute, you see is a normal FPS. But then you see the aircraft pilots shotting to the grunts builders. And this is lame. Imagine the pilot squadrom pre-flight: "Our main mission is to shot some skyscraper workers". Lame.
You may think aircraft attacking N.Y. will destroy the bridges, to isolate the area. Then maybe the powerstation (if a invasion is not planned) or maybe one huge building to cause chaos. I doubt a militar invasion will target builders..
Also the explosions are not well done. This game looks like a console game. Bad particle effects. Gimmicky lara-croft alike subnivels, etc.

So we play an engineer, huh?
"E-rectin' a resistance!"

@tei: Well since from my impression there is no actual army defending New york city. THe German's air force's aim is most likely to "shock and awe" Destroying public works, show of force.. etc not valuable infrastructure that isn't being used by american troops. Since there isn't.

But..those zeppelins kick so much ass... why did we drop them for airplanes?!

its a Red Alert 2 FPS

Interesting concept but graphics look like CoD 1 at best. Why are explosions in video games so bad? Seems like the #1 area for improvement with next gen capabilities.

Pretty excited about this game. Statiscaly, it may end in "port-land" and suck, but the concept and possible ideas are great.
@mikevanpwn:
@Bohnc:
@re4de2ye0:

Every country had a civil war. An internal dispute caused by a difference of opinion. We swiss had one too.
Maybe the guy means a REAL war. A modern, recent and still remebered by many veterans. A war where not only you loose human lives, but your homes, a piece of culture or history. Where the average joe fights tooth and nail for everything he stands for, on his own soil, not colonies or territories so far away that nobody gives a rat's ass about.

We have had a large scale war on our soil, we celebrate it every July 4th, our independence, that war lasted 8 years.

On top of this is has been done before with World In conflict.

And this game looks boring but shouldnt judge until i can play a demo.

This is the most tired idea ever. I mean shit, Freedom Fighters was this exact game except you were a plumber instead of a high-rise construction worker and you got to boss around a couple pals.

I'm sure that game will be superior as all hell to this one. No doubt.

Also.. i'm ok with the everyman thing .. as long as your main goal in the game is just to get OUT of the city. That's the peice that pisses me off the most about these Joe Schmoe everyman stories... for some odd ass reason they decide to storm the castle at some point instead of just getting the fuck outta Dodge.

I'm not sure people were all that confused about the game premise to begin with.

"Our country has never really fought a battle on our own soil." While I understand being a CEO doesn't mean he has a major in history, he has never heard of the civil war? I am going to take it with a grain of salt and assume he means, "battle on our own soil with a foreign power since Britain." Say Alamo all you want, that wasn't our soil just yet.

Screw this game, just make a Red Dawn game. WOLVERINES!

@Warbuff6644:

I was thinking the same thing. War of 1812? Revolutionary war? Civil war? Yeah, someone send this man some Ken Burns DVDs.

My biggest complaint with this game is that THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED THAT TRAILER IN ALMOST A YEAR. It looks like Half Life 1. The idea has promise, especially if they made a WW2 city game with fully destructible environments etc. But the generic looking last-gen shooter that's on display here isn't going to get anyone's blood pumping, save some moronic congressional seat looking for a scapegoat to pin his or her next election cycle on.

It's 1953 and the best the Nazis could msuter are ME109s with jet engines?

Did these guys even PLAY Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe? Seriously. And airships? With no native supply of helium they need to be filled with hydrogen. Not too tought to defend against.

I love alternate history fiction, but only if it's done right. This looks amaturish.

Is it just me or are those graphics just a hunk of grade a asscake?