Oh, are we still talking about this?

You're underwhelming.

Derp. I said "TV" but meant "Wrestling".

Actually, I don't enjoy wrestling because I don't enjoy wrestling. However, if there was some element of suspense to the outcome, I might be able to enjoy it a little (see: Hockey, Basketball) even if I don't enjoy the core sport.

And sure I can enjoy movies about dodgeball, or whatever. But to compare a movie, or even TV series, to wrestling is (to me) a really unfair comparison.

Soap Operas - where there's an endless string of nonsensical story lines and forced content because they have to keep up what is essentially the exact same storyline or plot thread in each and every show - is the closest I think TV comes to soap operas.

Believe me, I enjoyed some wrestling awhile back during my more drunken college years, so I can relate. But having been able to enjoy it even knowing it was fake, and now thinking I would poke my eyes out with my own toenails if I ever watched any again, has made me think about why.

As I said, just my opinion.

I can understand why you're being so defensive, but I'll try to answer from my perspective. It's pretty simple in my own mind, really.

I enjoy sports. Football and baseball in particular. Finding out when someone is cheating, or throwing a game, or betting on outcomes of matches they're involved in, it infuriates me. A large part of the drama I get out of watching athletic competition comes from the suspense of heading towards an outcome. When either or both of the competitors already know the outcome, it loses all real tension for me.

I'm not saying everyone should think like me, but I do get why most people look down upon it. In the end, knowing it's fake but enjoying it anyway boils down to enjoying watching men in tights throw each other around.

I think that worries people. :D

They should. It will be Microsoft's fault for trying to save face by giving someone special treatment.

This shit has got to stop. People with priceless memorabilia should not be using it for its original purpose. Repair technicians need to stop being brainless douchebags and destroying people's shit. And companies need to stop rewarding people who whine to the press.

What crap.

I'll tell you why.

Because "Games" as we know them were created and driven by people with a deep understanding of their potential as tools to express ideas and allow a user to manipulate an environment in a way real life doesn't allow.

The more the public accepts them, the more companies see dollar signs, and the less deep they become. 90% of games now (A statistic backed up by absolutely no evidence :D ) are just shelf decoration.

Read into stuff much?

I bet you're good at those 3D pictures that were all the rage a decade ago.

Couldn't your friends have downloaded the demos for all of those games you listed? I did, and that's why I bought all of them.

I can totally understand the trade-ins, though.

I forgot to add, I do think it should be available on both - as should every game.

But I don't get why someone would be so dead set against the entire game now, one they theoretically wanted to enjoy, just because it's not on UMD.

This is a portable device, for cryin' out loud.

Why, exactly, does this bother you so much?

I wish every gam was available as a digital download.

Have you seen Bill Gates? :D

Yeah you can, I have added multiple items many times. If you just hit previous you'll go back to the listing you added to the cart from.

Maybe AI tracks work differently.

It's too bad the requirement for that seems to be delays, and not game quality. I know the majority of you disagree with me, but after Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect, two MAJOR letdowns for me, I could care less about delays and promises if the game is at least fun or interesting to play.

I hear ya, I have no idea how they choose who beta's stuff. I got lucky a couple times early on, and I always made sure I answered their surveys and stuff, just to make sure my account was still active.

It would be nice if beta members, of any game (last one for me before Home was Warhawk), could send out an invite or two to get others into the beta as well.

@BaxterPunch:

Motion controls are much more precise in Warhawk, allowing you to fly and aim independently - but they are way more difficult.

I'm American, know no Sony employees, and got my Home beta the same way I have received every other beta in the last 5 years - being a member of the PSU (even thought I haven't visited the site in a long, long time).

Am I missing something else? Or are you just confused?

What do you mean "still invisible".

I can go home every night and log into Home.

You throw out "kid" and "dipshit" quite often here.

I'm curious how old you think you are, and how much of a dipshit rating you'd give yourself.

Joke?

You do know what the intent of PR is, right? This isn't a joke - it may have been put forth that way, but this was a calculated, and dare I say, smart answer for PR purposes.

Hahaha, agreed.

Marketing builds brands, not quality. That's why Halo is so well known.

MTV launched the fucking 360, and Mountain Dew has pictures of MC on their bottles, etc.

It's not a bad thing, and I loved the first Halo (downhill/rehash from there), but some of you are equating quality with popularity, and they are completely unrelated these days.

Get WinRar, it's free and easy.

I think your points are laughable, considering these people spent time and energy making this on the PS3. Time spent not playing their 360's. :D

You stink.

Like cabbage.

Groodle, your typos stink.

I understand. I do agree it should be optional, certainly, and it should also preclude you from having to insert a disc every time (but that ill not happen for the same reason 99% of PC games that have an install still require the disc be in the tray to play).

However, install processes give me a great reason to peruse the instruction manual of a new game, which I would never do otherwise.

Besides, when I threw in HSG and started up the install last night, I just played come GOW: COO while I waited.

:)

I understand not wanting it to be required, but...it's a one time deal.

It takes more time to go to the store and buy the game than it takes to install.

1. My 360 died.

2. I accidentally left my new PSP on the train.

3. Assassin's Creed was a waste of money.

4. I killed a goldfish I had as a pet, once.

Come on, assholes, where's my free shit? :D

2. My understanding was that Hitman was the first disc to have this portable file included. It's not on every disc.

3. To the dude having issues connecting PC to PS3 - send me a message and I can help you. It's easier than it seems.

Better? Not necessarily.

A safer business choice? Definitely.

To even insinuate that the fun of a game can outweigh the lack of any plot was the smartest thing I've seen in this thread.

Kudos, Setzer.

I have a few thoughts on this.

First, I can understand where you're coming from. That's exactly how I felt about Assassin's Creed after I bought, and quickly returned, it.

Having said that, I played a Sims or two in my day, and it seems like most of my enjoyment came from building the damn house. I could spend hours making things, knowing after about 10 minutes of playing the actual game, I'd erase everything and do it again. I think of these types of games as Lego sets.

I think the level of customization - considering this is one of the first games to ever do this - is astonishing. I don't know what the actual "goal" of the game is. Maybe you complete levels to unlock new building materials - I dunno - but if that's the case, I will be hooked for months.

If you hit "X" four times, someone else plays the game for you.

If you meant what you wrote, you would've assumed he was illiterate, not homophobic. :D

I'm curious what you think of as above-average..

Oh, I was just teasing. I am a recovering - scratch that - relapsing Sony fanboy, but I don't think PC gaming is ever going anywhere.

Tech geeks tinkering with electronics are how we ended up with the awesome video games we have, via PC, and they will never go away.