C'mon, Yoda in Soul Calibur IV? Not exactly fair. He's a Jedi Master and short. Really, really short. How can bigger characters compete? Says the game's director Katsutoshi Sasaki:
The influences that Yoda will have in terms of gameplay because of his height, [is that] some of the upper attacks won't hit him... However, we always try to make the gameplay fun, so we prepare positive demerits of choosing Yoda and also negative demerits on it. There's always some give and take... I don't know who will be best to use to defeat him, but what's more interesting is you can use Asteroth to make it like David and Goliath. That'd be fun.
Yeah, a hoot... Seeing how Goliath lost and all.
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That's not what demerit means! ARG! You're not speaking your 2nd language with the same degree of skill as your native tongue! Nothing could be more infuriating.
I'm not gonna complain... But then again, I play the game FOR the game. Some people play it for some semblance of a story and want continuity... haha.
Sounds like Gon in PS1 Tekken 3. Annoying, that is.
should maybe rethink the whole david and goliath thing, doesn't really help his cause
do or do not..there is no try.
Ok,I've gotten the token yoda quote out of the way.I need to brush up on some Soul Calibur.I played it a little on Dreamcast last week.
@HawaiianActor: oops, Bashcraft mentioned that on the last line, i guess i should pay more attention
y hello thar Tira ;o
playng as yoda will be awesome. i will miss spawn though :(
@Grave: I loved Gon soooo much, he has this awesome rushing fire attack.
@Grave: Agreed.
Well, I'm sure the low kicks and vertical slices will do well against him, but I can also see slow characters having a hard time against him. I'm sure he probably has that ONE cheesy short character move like Gon had.
I'd like to know if Vader has any special advantages also.
Not exactly the best way to explain it...
I am going to try that David and Goliath thing out. :)
"Sasaki says his latest creation, "Soul Calibur IV," was made with people like me (read: button-mashing novices) in mind."
Hmm. Shorter moveset than SC3?...
He is like that little dino or lizard man in Soul Calibur! short but who cares! his cool!
I find it funny that out of his obvious advantages (the force, a freaking lightsaber) they pick his height as the most obvious reason he's cheap. And you know what? It makes sense. What kind of a world do we live in where short swordsmen are more feared than swordsmen with lightsabers?
I dont wanna live in that world, no sir. :)
i just hope he cant weild the Soul Edge...
Hopefully, this doesn't mean that they are going to create negative attributes that don't make any sense.
"positive demerits"?
@Magic Emperor Anima: It's at least inspiring that this game (well, at least the 360 version) was designed with the character in mind, rather than Gon being tacked on for the home version. It'll certainly be interesting to see how they handle patching for the other inevitable balance issues that'll pop up.
Not only will High attacks not hit him, but all of his attacks will be mid-low attack range. He could be broken.
Yoda is going to be a bit rigged I guess.. he'll be banned in tourneys :p
Oh God I can hear it now. "What the fuck man this is bullshit. You only won cause you picked yoda hes so fucking tiny." Yoda is the oddjob of sc4.
If they balance him right, I think it can work - a lot of the gameplay I've seen has him jumping a LOT - so much so that half his time in fights is spent at other characters' eye-level. Therefore, he may be short half the time, normal height half the time... and on top of that probably balanced in terms of power of his attacks, so... no, I don't think he's broken. He'll just play differently.
He'll be banned from tourneys as most tournament don't allow special characters. He won't be a problem for me as Voldo will kick his ass all day long.
Those are not the kinds of things I want to hear from someone just coming off of a fighting game development team. Have we just given up on trying to balance the game?
So glad I'm getting the PS3 version...this way I don't have to deal with lame Yoda-spammers at all.
...until he's added as DLC, that is.
I like how he steered the conversation away from the balance issues with a David and Goliath comparison. Real subtle.
Yoda being unfair or not won't stop me from purchasing the game though. Haven't played a good fighter in a while.
This is part of the reason I'm glad I've got a PS3.
I can still play as Astaroth and Nightmare.
@deathbunny: Post of the week.
I'd nominate you but I'm lazy.
How does he fit with the characters from Soul Caliber?!!? Is it just because he has a light saber lol I would love to see him hopping around and using the FORCE!
Both players could use Yoda?
Wow, it's a good thing I wasn't planning on getting this game; it seems like it'll be more frustrating than anything.
@TheCleaningGuy: WHAT! they're not in both games. fffuck that sucks for 360 owners I love me some Nightmare.
This is the part where my friends and I will make the rule that no one can be Yoda. However, Yoda will be kickass so we will have mediated all-out Yoda fights. Fair, right? I think so.
I wonder how grabs will work against Yoda...
@Ken Hikari:
Every character will pick him up and dropkick him out of the stage. No exceptions.
It'll result in an entirely new metagame; midget-kicking!
I would have liked Yoda.
But since I have a PS3, Vader'll have to do.
I love the Penny Arcade on that.
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Reminds me of the little guy (don't remember is name) in Golden Eye ! You couldn't shoot him directly without having to aim down, which wasn't that easy back then with the N64 controller !
If this was any regular sort of character, and he was broken, I could understand the frustration. But it's freaking Yoda, which renders all complaining dumb. And to my memory, every fighting game I've ever played (I concede I have not played anything like a lot of fighting games) has been plagued by some cheap way to play, whether wall-trapping, ring outs, juggling, or playing as Necrid. So, nothing new, and at least this time the broken thing is a Jedi master. Awesome!
Oh, and: if anyone, ANYONE, doesn't have the Kid Koala song 'dinner with Yoda', get it now. Please.
Why didn't they just use Luke Skywalker? This is silly.
@Kai_:
Because they'd have to pay for Mark Hamill's likeness rights, probably. Yoda doesn't have an actor they'd have to pay, nor does Vader, being a man in a suit. They can hire voice sound-alikes, and the only people who they have to work with are LucasArts.
@Shteve: Ah, you beat me too it, thats the first thing I thought of. Stupid Oddjob.
Ok, so we know he's going to have auto ducking on high H and 90% of high V.
Here's my question; will he be grabable? XD
Better question, will he have a free ride past sophitia's cheese? 1[1]a,[a]
@Grave: I hated playing as Gon.
As much as I don't care for the SW characters being included. I'll go with the PS3 version.
Whatev, I'm getting the PS3 version. Let the 360 players bitch about Yoda.
This game needs a Servebot. That will teach Yoda who's boss.
augh! he'll be just like oddjob in goldeneye.
does anyone else have horrible nightmares about playing against oddjob in multiplayer? i do. they haunt me still. can't shoot ... short ... man ...
Pfttt...size matters not. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!
@Xul:
Gon was so broken. Only character in a Tekken game aside from Jinpachi with the ability to kill a character from full life in two or three hits.
He could instakill you too if you were stupid. I can only assume Yoda will be like this, which is why I'm glad PS3 owners get Vader instead. At least Vader fights like a normal combatant.
@Archaotic: Yoda isn't Jinpachi and Jinpachi was an end boss that wasn't playable in multiplayer originally.
Although I had been know to spend hours on him with the characters I'm bad as.
Well, hopefully we'll see what's been done to keep him from being too ridiculous sometime soon...
Shout of victory for Gon gans.
Fuck Star Wars. There I said it.