well i bought it day one. so there

These numbers are from before the Euro launch are they not? So they get at least another million in the EU (esp on PC) and they have the 360 version coming in the fall.

2.5 million overall will still make the shareholders happy no?

Should have released it on 360 at the same time!

Well, if I had a PS3 I'd be all over that. So I guess if it goes Greatest Hits by the time I get one, there will be another sale. Better late than never . . .

Maybe this is due to the influx of space marine shooters with oversized body armor? I liked the first couple of UTs, but haven't checked this one out yet. Can anyone who liked the original UT comment on the new one?

1million? oh noes the pee says are in dissaray! Curse you blizinski. They released it at a bad time. during the holidays when so many awesome original IPs were out, this old franchise just got put aside for later. It would be like if smash brothers released 4 more games in the next 4 years with little new content and planned to released it during the holidays, people would rather spend their money on something new and fresh.

@bangbangblah: I hear your pain. So many great games but not enough money. I lost count on how many games i have missed. When i get another console i will probably grab all i want from the $10 dollar bin :P

@7ucky: It's pretty much just like past UT's. It has a single player but its just bot matches with some cut scenes in between.

they're scaring away the audiences with the worst character design ever. and besides that, the game hasn't really evolved. it's pretty much the same thing as the first ut, but shinier and less fun.

Don't you think that if they had released this day and date on 360 with a big sticker that said "From the people who brought you Gears!" it would'e sold a million on 360 alone.

A quality fast-paced online-heavy FPS? Why would you make this game and NOT put it on the one place FPS players tend to hang out.

It'd be like making a Slurpee machine and NOT putting it in a convenience store and then complaining no one's buying.

Maybe they should have advertised it a bit more. Also coming out right after everyone had done their Xmas purchases was just plain dumb (Dec 12th). It should sell better considering it's the only shooter on current gen consoles on which you can use mods that are FREE. The replay value only goes up with time. Plus it does mouse and keyboard on the PS3 !

maybe if the game didn't suck it would've sold more.
its waaaaay too niche in that you can't jump in and have a good time. everything is ridiculously fast, everyone jumps firing random rockets everywhere (sorry, in the -general direction- of everyone).

even the bots are cheap on the lowest difficulty. they rush your side, you flank them perfectly and bam they all turn at the same time and start shooting you without you even revealing youself.

its just gotten stupid, and its sad cuz i wanted to like it. the vehicles are awesome and the game looks amazing. but the gameplay is just shit.

it was a good game, bought it day one and later traded it in for a copy of folklore.

the problem was it didn't have the 'Wow!' factor 2004 did. Looked great, and played decently, but just wasn't the same.

I think they need to get off this art style they seem to have started with gears, and get back to something less wannabe 40k and more 'galactic war turned game show' like UT 1 and 2k3/4.

I bought it day one as well I will buy the next ut day one as well.

@7ucky: UT3 feels alot like the original UT, I loved UT99 and was very dissapointed by the 2003/4 iterations of the franchise (they lost that classic UT 'feel'). However UT3 is fantastic!

Really happy with my purchase, twitch gaming at it's best. The only downside is the ripper didn't make a comeback which is a shame :(

This is pretty funny actually. Mark Rein's hubris did not do Epic any favors. At first he said the reason Epic did not simultaneously release UTII on the 360 was because Xbox Live was to restrictive to it's modding community, but it seems now that UTIII needs the 360 more than UTIII needs to appease its small community of modders. Instead of putting a game on a system with a more proven consumer base, Epic decided to appease the niche part of its community, which in all likelihood pirated their copy of UTIII. Smooth move Mark...smooth move.

@ Kyle81: because multiplayer w/friends is where it's at
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i love UT3, it has good fun and didn't take long for me to get comfy ( first time UTer )

Well the old Unreal 2004 was very scalable to many lower end computer systems. UT3 needs dual core to look nice and I am sure not many people are or have upgraded. Plus many windows users probably have 360s

How did that mod system turn out? Does it improve the gameplay? It is a big deal if the 360 version doesn't have it?

The delay put it out after COD4 and Warhawk. Who owns and plays all three? I'm still up for purchasing it when it drops to the $20 in the used bin.

COD4 has dumped on every other multiplayer game this year, Halo, Warhawk, you name it. Why should an outdated franchise like UT3 be any different?

@Most Wanted: After this: By January 19, 2007, just ten weeks after its debut, over three million units of the game had been sold.[6]" <--Gears of War, from Wiki

I seriously doubt it.

I really think this has little to do with the 360. The fact of the matter is that the FPS genre has changed drastically and Unreal Tournament III has not adapted to those changes.

The days of fast past frag fest are no longer. The FPS has actually grown into a far more sophisticated genre.

I'm not saying that Unreal isn't fun or great, because it is...however its hardly anything new. If you refuse to change your product eventually you are going to see a drop in sales.

I bet this figure would be much higher had they released it for the 360. Not only does the 360 have a higher install base, but a much higher software attach rate.

How many of those 1 million are still playing this turd?

I bought it on the PC and haven't touched it since December.

@johnnylineup: Me too

@Manny: Me neither.

Poor UTIII. 1 million is nothing to scoff at necessarily, but across both platforms, that is pretty crappy. I bought it day one on the PS3. I like the game, but as a couple of people have mentioned, COD4 is taking all my multiplayer time, and then all the single player experiences are sapping time away as well.

@charliescene187:

They wanted to, but Microsoft won't let them make user created mods available to 360 owners, and they don't want the 360 version to feel gimped compared to the PS3/PC versions, so they're trying to work something out with MS so that people can have those user created mods.

Release that same game on the 360 and watch the figures rise. Seriously. PC gaming is...in flux for lack of better words. And the PS3 just does not have the installed base or the online support necessary to make this game big. Even with H3, Gears, and COD4, UT3 would still have a following on the box. Its the home of shooters afterall. I think this less indictative of the UT franchise and more indictaive of the state of PC online gaming and the low install base for the PS3.

@CanaryWundaboy: that's mostly true but Warhawk wasn't made completely useless simply b/c of the air combat still makes the game fun as hell

hey it could be worse it could be a complete flop it basically sold 200k units a month a Sonic game would love those kinds of sales

@johnnylineup: you and me both dude. Day one!

I like the game, it's never going back to the store and I still wait for the Transformers mods with sound effects and the Goldeneye mod with the Temple and proxy mines.

This isn't any indication that the franchise is not a powerful one anymore. I just think it's a telling sign that the market is simply saturated with games of the FPS genre and that no matter what type of heritage or prestige an IP holds, innovation needs to be met.

Unreal Tournament 3 is a great game, but it's a throwback to a game and genre that doesn't need a throwback right now, because what it's looking for is more an evolution than to bring it back from life support.

I'll blame no splitscreen multiplayer on PS3.

@Most Wanted: Since Epic is independent, the shareholders are probably the bosses of the company, so I think they'll be more than happy.

I too agree they should have just released it on 360, as we all know 360 owners love their first person shooters. The time frame they released UT3 for PC was pretty bad, i believe it was November, same month CoD4 came out.

The PS3 version is probably the version with the most amount sold however. I've heard the online numbers on the PC version aren't great.

I think Epic's problem is they were banking on user created maps selling the PS3 version. Which in a way, it has but the game itself isn't as good overall as its predecessor UT 2004.

I just hope they can nail the user created content on the 360 version. Its totally possible but Epic have to develop a secure system. I'm sure they did for PS3 but with user created content, there will always be a chance for someone to exploit and they are going to need to convince Microsoft that won't be the case.

The games is very avg and compared to the top notch FPS that are out there its easy to see why UT3 sales aren't that hot.

@BryanGuitarDude: Um... no, it's nothing like that. UT isn't on an annual release schedule, and I'd say there are more changes between UTs than Smash games.

@Modus_Operandi: Don't reach such absurd and ignorant conclusions please. There are more people online multiplayer gaming on PC than there are on all the consoles combined. Just because UT3 didn't sell well, it doesn't mean there's some sort of crisis. It just means there's a shit load of games out there to play and most people don't see UT3 as bringing anything significantly different to the table.

not to mention that recently FPS multiplayer on PC belongs to Team Fortress 2 and Call of Duty 4 While on 360 it belongs to Call of duty 4 and Halo 3. no room for it on PC and even if it came out on 360 its doubtful people would play it as much as CoD or Halo

When it drops on the 360 there should be a decent jump in numbers...it's called the "360 affect"...or at least I call it that.

Yeah it really comes down to the deal with Sony and the exclusivity window...

Rein and Co. simply gambled that a PS3 exclusivity window either would be a big enough event that it would offset the lack of a 360 release. or perhaps Sony dangled enough incentives to offset the potential losses in earnings.

Would Epic have gone for a simultaneous release if they had a chance to do-over? I think it could have meant a million before the holidays. And although the 360 version should be a decent performer, it's literally last year's game.

@NPlace: Ah well my mistake then i remember seeing UT 2003 and so on, I thought they had just gone the Madden way an releasing it yearly up until the last 2 years. But in any case after so many UT's i cant imagine as many people going from one to the other.

@ErskinPig: Its absurd and ignorant to suggest that PC gaming is down? Tell that to the developers then that agree with that sentiment. Apparently the PC gaming Alliance that Epic is a part of is also filled with ignorant and absurd business people. The fact is PC gaming is not the leader of the pack anymore, unless youre discussing pirating leaders. The majority of PC gamers dont buy games. They steal them. Plain and simple. Youre not going to get big numbers from all those countless online gamers that out number consoles, if they arent paying for anything. Thats just simple logic.
Here's another fact. Time was consoles would get PC ports. The shoes firmly on the other foot now. And for a reason. The reason is PC gamers are liable to steal that shoe and your whole damn foot with it.

@CanaryWundaboy: that seems to be the popular opinion but I'd argue that CoD4 as popular as it is has NOT completely dominated the time of arm chair champions everywhere. I have a number of servers on my favorites list for Warhawk and most of them are always full. Everything from Zones (lots of Zones) to Dogfight and Team Deathmatch. UTIII is similar but to a lesser degree. When I bootup UTIII I can always find people online to play and plenty of people playing ranked matches. The problem is, if I host a match, I usually get a lot of dual analogers and maybe one k/b and mouser. I'm using the splitfish so between me and the mouser, we're raping the other guys. It's not even close.

the point is, UTIII is still great fun. I wouldn't take an elitist douche mentality to UTIII because it doesn't do CoD4 or UTIII justice. Personally, I prefer UTIII, because of the weapons and the vehicles.

@Striderhayasa - Phillyyakk on PSN and Live.: as far as PC gaming slowing down...uh...right....okay. I think what we're seeing is the gap between PC gaming and console gaming is smaller than it's ever been. There's no driving reason why a person would play PC gaming only, when there is comparable and in some cases superior content on consoles. With the exception of RTS and flight sims

but I'll say this...there is absolutely nothing that's going to compare to StarCraft II. not Halo 3, not CoD 4, Not Gears of War 2. StarCraft II is THE megaton sequel console developers wish they had.

Only on PC...bwahahahahaahahaah

UT3 is a fast paced fragfest made for those with a retro taste. I like it, but I know people who resent it for its speed. Most shooters are so much slower in comparison and I guess that drives people away. UT3 is too fast to be as accessible as other fps.