Those Japanese what will they think of next ;D

That's not where I'm used to seeing mosaic on Japanese women.

Excellent.

Maximum Risky!

You know when you've watched too much Japanese porn when you initially assume her face would look like lady parts under there..

@JudgeNutmeg:
Haha

Ok, censor my pron, fail. Censor the chicks face, I give up on Japan... For a day, well, untill another episode of a anime I watch comes out.

i hear thats not the only place she has a beautiful mosaic.

MY EYES!!!

I'm sure my lady office mates with DSes will like this >_<

@JudgeNutmeg: Beat me to it and did it better :)

Any chance on multiplayer vs mode on this title?
I could see myself in the subway massaging some random person in the other cart that turns out to be an overweight salaryman.

.. Ill just show myself out now..

Japan has missed the point of Fight Club entirely. Where's the grit and blood and self-destruction and bad poetry? I cannot crank it to your clean computer-colored animes. Needs moar darkness plz.

@JudgeNutmeg: Hahahahaha Oh my god I almost fell out of my chair.

This game feels too embarrassing to play, even for me. :x

Its offbeat, quirky games like this that have made the DS the phenomena it is !

@JudgeNutmeg: Win.

"If lovey-dovey couples can play together, it'll be no accident that they get aroused!"

What? Is a girl supposed to compete with her boyfriend to see who's better at scrubbing boys?

I have to wonder why girls would pick up a game staring boys that are pretty much girls with a cups and thin hips and somehow adhere to non-male thinking instead of producing stuff with characters akin to Vagabond.

Do these women just hate men men with, you know, man-ness to them? I'm of the hetero variety and I swear I have better tastes then some of these girls.

@Horsefly: There was grit and blood, but she's already wiped it off! that's the point of the game!

(Well... :)

@Black-Dog-Howls: Men are ick, so the less 'man-ness' the better. Get with the programme!

Hmm... For some reason I never imagined there were female game producers in Japan. Happy to see I am mistaken! Are there more? An army of them, perhaps, to help revitalize this "Final Gear Solid" market? Preferrably with a different title/genre...

That said, there is not a chance in hell that I will buy this game but I do sincerely hope it does well.

Blargh!

Anime boys are as realistic as anime girls. I think that´s a fair deal.

@JudgeNutmeg:

When you get deeper into underground pornography that's the mosaic you'll be seeing. No joke. Sometimes they'll just settle for the black band over the eyes, though. Trust me, if you dig deep enough you won't be seeing a mosaic of the ladiest of parts.

Maa, anyway, I think there should be at least on short, fat, hairy male in that game. You know, so then women might think, "Hey, I like that guy Channing!" after they're done with the game. Well,... a Channing like person anyway, I'm spoken for.
I wonder what girls think of this game. I mean, I personally wouldn't want to rub sweat off of a girl. Wait,... no, ok. I guess I would. But girl sweat is make of flowers and guy sweat is made of icky.

Can't wait to wipe some sweat off the quiet intelligent type fighter, he's my favorite

Dumb bitch, you get a chance to make a gme for women, by women, and what do you decide to use this influence for? Got to wipe the sweat off the hard working fighting boys! Cause you know, apparently that's all women are useful for! Way to get young asian women all ready to enter the massage parlor business.

I'm a guy and I'm pissed off at this game on behalf of women. Might as well make a Malibu Stacey game (pre-Lisa makeover)

@quen: So basically they want girls...with fleshy man appendages...but aren't actually men or even boys?

Hey guys, keep it cool with the mosaic jokes. The producer of this game is a co-worker on my same floor. I don't want to think of mosaic everytime I run into her on the vending machine.

@kuzuboshii: As a veteran commentor you should know better than to call a woman a "bitch". Sorry but the HAMMER FALLS.

I don't think I've ever seen the Hammer in action. I feel privileged!

Whoa. Mosaic on the FACE? Where has she been putting that thing? Contagious censorship!

@kuzuboshii:

When it comes down to it, how do you think she got her job? Do you think she wanted to create games which empowered women? Or do you think she wanted to make games that would get her money and let her keep her job?

Haha, after re-reading that first question, it might sound a bit naughty. I didn't intend it so.

Yeeeeeeah, that game's not for women, it's for closeted Japanese salarymen.

Witzbold have mercy!

Kotaku should have a mosaic feature on usernames when someone is banned

@Zuiyo:
I think the damange is done. My apologies.

@Witzbold:
I respect you Witz, I really do, but do you think it's necessary to go all "Hammer Time" on him?

@kuzuboshii:

You honestly speak lousily for women. Way to make us ALL look like we're all full of feminist bullcrap.

Remember that scene in Sex and the City where the girls were all laughing, watching a gay porno together?

Yeah, this is about the same thing. Bishounen (and any latent possibility of yaoi) is a type and sub-genre that has a lot of female fans, myself included and you're really fooling yourself kuzu if you don't admit THAT.

Honestly, I get to see guys on guys, AND get to poke them indecently with a towel. What the heck is NOT to love!

@Channing:
Yeah, stuff like saying "Is this news?" or making rape "jokes" or being homophobic or being disrespectful to women or being rude the site's editors are all instant bans.

@Channing: Folks need to hold themselves to higher standards. Not to mention being an older commentor he should have known better that others have been banned in the same situation.

@Brian Ashcraft:
@Witzbold:

Alright, I guess I can see where you're coming from. But when disrespectful things are said about other people I don't see the hammer of justice flying out of peoples' hands. Then again, perhaps I'm not around when it happens but I never see a note about it.
This time I was able to see Witz make mention of what was going to happen.

I think the only thing I'm kinda iffy about is that if you say something disrespectful about a guy nothing happens. At least, from what I've seen. I believe that women are our peers and should also be able to be critisized. Perhaps Kuzu's comment was a bit rough around the edges but I'm not sure that what he said should be a banable offense. I'm sure he could've made his comment more PC and a bit more constructive, though.
Why didn't I see hammers on they fly when we were talking about Jade? Unless there were hammers. Invisi-hammers. If that's the case, I just didn't see them.

@Witzbold:

I assumed he was a woman at first =P

Way to be a little TOO in touch with the oestrogen...

I honestly look forward to this game and I just hope there's enough 'game' to it XD

@Channing: Misandry is sort of like payback for centuries of patriarchal society. Let the women have their era of man-bashing.

@Channing:
Just 'cause you don't see a note doesn't mean it wasn't happening! :/

@Byakko:
You know, they should've put in at least one female fighter. I mean, if you look at dokidokimajoshinpan they had that one boy in the hospital, right?

I DEMAND EQUAL TOUCHING RIGHTS!
Well, actually, I don't really care.

Lemme ask, though. What do you find so appealing about this game? I mean, I've asked guys the same question about majoshinpan but I guess it's kinda obvious what they're there for.
Perhaps it's unfair for me to ignore the libido of girls/women? Hmmm, I'll have to think about this.

@Channing:

The thing is, he was purposefully derogative to the lady in his comments ironically in a chauvinistic way.

He labeled her as someone who has to improve the 'status' of women, to somehow raise the status of woman, while completely forgetting the fact he himself isn't a woman, who knows what women want or experienced what being a woman is like.

For example, he thought this game would "get young asian women all ready to enter the massage parlor business."

I'm sure we all don't see the logic in that. At all. He is completely ignorant of the 'bishounen' and male dating sim sub-genres, and to some extent the yaoi sub-genre, of which its absolute market and audience is female women and teens.

Secondly, he doesn't know what the exploitative industry in 'massage parlors' really is in Asia, which I suppose I have to commend on his moral upstanding. Basically, such massage parlors are fronts for prostitution, especially in the heartland areas (I live in Singapore, and it's a growing problem).

Here, he has the innocuous idea that the game would make girls choose that line of work just to touch men. Cute, but not particularly optimistic of the average intelligience of women, are we? At least though, the average woman is smarter than him regarding the game.

This game was primarily marketed in the same way (though less pedophiliac) as Doki Doki Shipan, except for women.

For example, I, as a woman, am totally on-board with buying this game for the simple reason that I like pretty boys, and I want to poke them with my stylus. If I get see guy-on-guy action in psuedo-yaoi context, that's a plus point for me and sells the game to me.

This is my opinion as a woman, as a fan of the bishounen art and presentation style, and of yaoi.

@Byakko:

Wow, great response. I wish I could write responses that are very well thought out and easy to read. I mean, seriously. Wow.

And for your reason for liking the game - that's cool. I guess I just didn't understand. Girls like boys. Why wouldn't girls like to poke and scrub (hot) boys? The hat goes on the head, it seems so obvious now!

About this banning business, Kotaku has its rules set.

I personally don't always like it. I've seen people get banned when I felt they didn't deserve it. For example, a few noobs who post "First" probably deserve a warning... But then again, maybe that warning would just fall on deaf ears.

Kuzu used the word bitch. It probably is a bit biased, because if he were to call David Jaffe any names because he's made a game that stereotyped men, people would just make fun of him and move on. But stereotypes are what they are for a reason. Him lashing out on this woman is more unacceptable than the above scenario.

@Channing:

I actually replied above before seeing your latest comment. I'll try to explain the appeal of yaoi as best as I can.

In the frankest of terms, studies have shown that women apparently have a larger range of things that arouses them than men. A study was done with various sexual imagery of various...things...and it was found women practically responded to all of them.

Some biological impetus then, explains the sexual arousal from watching things like yaoi, in women like me.

Psychologically, I'm not very sure, in all honesty. A professional analyst would do better than me; but this is what I've figured from reading such discussion and my own personal reflection.

Yaoi originated from Japan, where women were oppressed by society and the roles they find themselves in. Sexually, they were also repressed of course, despite some features of Japan being equally as liberal.

It was said that in yaoi, where both partners are male, and 'equal' in every way that mattered, the woman could fantasize about romantic love. Somehow, romantic love was impossible between a man and a woman, yet it wasn't such a farflung idea that two men could truly love each other in a way their husbands didn't.

Grown, married and mature women were initially yaoi's core audience. The stories and drawings were printed in 'housewife' magazines.

In the last two decades, the demographic shifted to include young unmarried women, and teenage girls. Why, I can't really explain. There's something unreal of seeing two beautiful men together, it's so far removed from the norm that we don't think about other implications.

In a way, I think that it's a relief not to have a female in there because we automatically project ourselves into the relationship we're reading, and frankly, it scares us.

I still think yaoi is a very juvenile fixation (like yuri). I prefer to say I sometimes watch homosexual anime, and I admit that it's not really a healthy fetish. I was influenced a lot by my friends who were into anime btw, and because it was so wildly accepted amongst my female friends (I was in two female-only schools for 6 years), I never questioned why I liked it, or why it was at all.

I hope this helps you understand why women like yaoi as they do. But keep in my mind this is my own personal observation, and that I have my own reasons otherwise why I sometimes like yaoi. But it has dwindled over the years, and now that I'm 20, I really can't be bothered with it.

@Byakko:

Yes, I'm familiar with the soul of Yaoi. Yamanashi Ochinashi Iminashi. I completely understand the beginning of yaoi.
I'm just curious as to why it appeals to younger girls. (Which I assumed you were, younger as in not 40 or so.)

I guess I never understood that part about projecting yourself onto the characters. I mean, we all do it all the time. I guess being removed from the situation allows you to enjoy it in a different capacity. That being said, it's probably why a majority of male readers will never understand/enjoy yaoi.

Thanks so much for your response!

Why do none of the guys in the game look like, well, guys? They all look like malnourished skeletons with skin stretched over. No muscle definition what