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Iowa Caucuses Good On Gaming

rockthevotelogo.jpgThe results of yesterday's Iowa Caucuses are in, and it's a clear win for video game fans everywhere! As the smoke cleared and the votes were tallied, two of gaming's strongest critics managed to avoid coming out on top. Republican Mitt Romney, who likes to lump in violent video games with pornography as factors corrupting America's youth, found himself in second place behind Mike "Change Your Last Name Before Being Elected Please" Huckabee, with 25% of the vote to Huckabee's 34%. On the democratic side of things, Hilliary Clinton found herself trailing John Edwards 30% of the vote by a tiny margin, with Barack Obama taking the lead with 38%. Clinton has long been outspoken against violent video games, at one time claiming they were "stealing the innocence of our children...making the difficult job of being a parent even harder." I think we're ll well-aware as to how hard it is to be a parent and still have to do all that unattractive parenting stuff. Icky. Despite the early numbers, the candidacy is hardly sealed for either party at this point. Next stop, New Hampshire!

Analysis: Huckabee up, Clinton down heading to Granite State [CNN via Game Politics]

8:20 AM on Fri Jan 4 2008
By Mike Fahey
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  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:27 AM on 01/04/08 *

    Barack Obama might be the Truth. Thats all I'm saying. Also glad to see Romney get beat, he is the worst one on the Republican side.

    Oh and where is Ron Paul, Internet? They don't have computers in Iowa?

  • to put it in easier-to-understand-no-percents form, obama was first, then huckabee, then hilary, then romney. i'm pretty happy with the results, if only hilary could've been fourth...

  • Image of ca$h ca$h at 08:29 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate: QFT

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:30 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @HigglyPiggly: It doesn't really work that way, since the people at the caucuses were seperate...not possible to do both in Iowa, last I checked. Its Obama first, then Hilary and Edwards on the Dem side, Huckabee, Romney and McCain on the republicans. McCain hopefully will rebound and push Romney further down next time.

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:30 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @ARboom: You and what army, Boy?

  • Image of Witzbold Witzbold at 08:30 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate: Preach on brother! Preach on!

  • Image of badasscat badasscat at 08:30 AM on 01/04/08 *

    Probably the most typo-riddled post I've ever seen on Kotaku, but anyway...

    I'm glad Obama beat Hillary, and I voted for her in the last two senate elections. I'd vote for her for president if she was the Democrats' choice (believe it or not, there are more important issues in the world than video games), but I'd rather she not be.

    I actually think Edwards has the best shot at beating any of the Republicans, but I'll take Obama over Clinton. I really have no idea what any of their stands are on video game issues, though, other than Clinton, who obviously doesn't rate very highly.

  • Image of badasscat badasscat at 08:31 AM on 01/04/08 *

    Er, I voted for her in the last *one* senate election. Dunno where I got two from...

  • Image of Witzbold Witzbold at 08:31 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate: I think he might mean Quoted For Truth. Or at least I hope so.

    Ive had an incident where someone though I was using Quoted For Truth, when it was the opposite Quit Fucking Trolling lol.

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:32 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @Witzbold: Oh, I thought it was Quit Fucking Talking, sorry Arboom if I misinterpreted ;)

  • Image of ca$h ca$h at 08:33 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate: What? I was agreeing with you. Get your acronyms straight.

  • @DaiMacculate: yeah, i just saw all the websites lumping both parties together. anyways, mccain would be the republican i want most, he seems to know his stuff better than anyone else running for the gop.

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:34 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @ARboom: Dammit, but there are two that mean the same thing! I don't know what to do! *Brain melts*

  • Image of ca$h ca$h at 08:35 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate: No prob. I'm glad it all worked out in the end. The spirit of Obama can make us all, whether we enjoy the Wii, 360, or PS3, come together and be thankful Hillary came 3rd of 3.

  • As long as Antichrist Clinton doesn't win, I can breathe easy.

    That woman will destroy this country if she ever gets a position higher than Senator.

  • @DaiMacculate: Actually, Higgly piggly was technically close to right considering that 250,000 democrats voted to only 90,000 republicans. And actually by that rationale, all the democrats would be ahead in Iowa. :) I hope those numbers are representative of the entire voting population in that state...they probably aren't, but it sure would be nice.

    And just because Huckabee hasn't said anything about video games, look at the rest of his beliefs...he will eventually...give it time.

  • @DaiMacculate:

    Ron Paul got 10% I believe, which is still more than what Rudy Guilani got, which I think was 4%.

  • I'll take Huckabee, name and all.

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:40 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @Zombie_Crunch: Damn, it was only 90k republicans? I heard the republican turnout was "high" on NPR and that 250kish number for the dems, so I assumed it was at least 150k+ for the republicans. Shows what happens when you assume ;)

    Yeah, I don't think the Huckster will be in favor of government regulating games though, he probably doesn't love them but I doubt he'd be in favor of legislation. Obama I also think is somebody we can trust to leave gaming alone, in terms of actually legislating anything.

  • Congrats to Obama. I hear his kids rock out the PS3 . . . or was that the 360? Or maybe the Wii? Well, it's revealed. The next President of the United States just might determine the console war.

  • Image of DaiMacculate DaiMacculate at 08:41 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @CyN1caL: Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Ron Paul in the least, and I am glad he beat Giuliani, I just think its a bit silly how hyped up some people on the internet seem to be about his candidacy.

  • @MACHETE_BEAR:
    Amen, bro.

  • Please no Huckabee please no Huckabee please no Huckabee. If he gets the Republican nomination, I'll be shocked at how idiotic the GOP is. If he wins the presidency, EU, here I come.

  • @DaiMacculate:
    Lucky for us 90k WAS high for the republicans. Apparently it was like 80K last term.

  • Before you go pedging your allegiance for "not clinton" or "not whoever" read on the candidates.
    A lot of these people are crazy, fullstop. Don't believe me look at their campaign issue pages.
    As much as I like gaming and I don't want to see a president hinder the development of interactive art, I'd much rather see someone who's not crazy but a little misinformed on gaming take the presidential seat.
    Just because a candidate doesn't mention gaming doesn't mean he's pro- or anti-gaming, but more often than not I'd assume politicians are anti-gaming. And the simple reason is that they'll look that much more wholesome by siding against anything that can seemingly be taken as violent or anti-family.




  • Image of ca$h ca$h at 08:43 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate:
    Yeah both sides had really high turnout compared to previous elections. I'm taking that as a hopeful sign that people are finally going to actually participate in our government instead of being like "well I couldn't vote because I wanted to see a movie the day registration ended." (that's a real one I've heard from a friend, btw).

  • @SuedeGopher: I'm with you.

  • @Zombie_Crunch: Actually, thier views are different. Romney takes the view of if it's in the Bible, then it's absolute law. Huckabee is a modern Christian where things in the Bible are meant to be used as a guide and not taken literally.

  • Huckabee is a dangerous religious zealot. Just because he hasn't said anything horrible about Mortal Kombat and Night Trap doesn't mean that he's a great gamer candidate. He'll get around to that eventually, given his extremely morals and faith based campaign.

  • @DaiMacculate: I supported Ron Paul with my vote yesterday. The local media gave Ron Paul the Fox News treatment (ignoring him and negative toned articles see headline [www.desmoinesregister.com] )when they aren't ignoring him.

    The Sunday edition of Des Moines Register had a page article about each candidate in the opening paragraph it talked about how he was the only one to vote against giving Rosa Parks a congressional gold medal to make him out as a racist. I personally thought he was a kook because of all the negativity until I did some research about him.

  • @ARboom: I'd like to believe that too. I hope this whole Internet thing is making a difference and it seems like it is considering the fact that we're even having this conversation now. I've never seen so many people take such a huge interest this early on. But there is a ton of great information out there now. And if anyone still has questions, you should watch the REP and DEM debates on Msnbc.com and Foxnews.com. They're really great. And you should watch both sides even if you know what you're voting for. It never hurts to be informed.

    I hope nobody replies, "I'll be too busy playing Call of Duty 4," to that.

  • @SuedeGopher: Don't worry, Huckabee is too much in the "batshit insane" category to actually win the White House. If he's the GOP candidate, which I'm hoping to be the case, he'll get massively trounced.

    His support of eliminating the income tax and replacing it with a national sales tax alone will likely prevent him from winning.

  • @Witzbold: Quoted For Truth is QFT? All these years I seriously always thought it was "Quite Fu***** True", my bad.

  • I just hope that video game violence never becomes a political tool in Australia like it seems to have been in the US. Either that, or I hope mutants do invade and our keyboard warriors of Doom and Quake come out to save the planet. Then who will be laughing now!??! hahahahah.. ok

  • @Tepoz: @Twoflower: I agree with Twoflower on this. Modern or not, the man is incapable of separating his religion from his politics. Although I'm going to be completely honest, I don't think he stands a chance of winning. Don't get me wrong, though, I don't care much for anyone on the republican side. It would be a tough choice...Fred Thompson? Maybe? Probably McCain. You have to respect a guy who was a POW for 5 years. At least you know he cares about his country...and he's a tough bastard, if not a little flashbacky.

  • @GibGirl: I think that's Ron Paul.

  • @DaiMacculate: He didn't beat Guiliani, Guiliani chose not to participate in the Iowa Caucus. When the primaries start in other states you'll see Guiliani in the running...unfortunately.

  • @Tepoz:
    Not sure that I agree with that summation, but one of them is downplaying their beliefs while the other is playing them up to the hilt.

    With Romney, I do think he's getting the JFK Roman Catholic treatment. The LDS Prophet will probably not be calling all the shots, especially given Romney's dated political beliefs espoused through his Governorship.

    Huckabee reminds me a bit too much of our current Commander in Chief. He speaks from the gut, loves talking about his faith in Jesus, and knows little about the intricacies of foreign policy. I'm afraid it will W all over again, but maybe even worse.

    Huckabee reminds me a bit too much of our current Commander in Chief. He speaks from the gut, loves talking about his faith in Jesus, and knows little about the intricacies of foreign policy. I'm afraid it will W all over again, but maybe even worse.


  • @GibGirl: I think you're right about that, and I may be secretly hoping he wins the nomination, just because I don't think he'd stand a chance against any democrat in a debate...except maybe Mike Gravell.

  • Sorry folks, Huckabee will be President, I guess. Why? Because Chuck Norris stood right beside him during his speech. Not that I'd have to say anything in this matter (I'm German).

  • @Tepoz: Huckabee DOES support FairTax.

  • @Zombie_Crunch: I always respected McCain but he's been beaten down by possible in-party sabatoge too many times that he's now pulling whatever the his party bosses ask him too. I can't seperate my religious beliefs from who I am and I doubt anyone can either. What do you believe in? That question has a direct effect on your actions.

  • Image of doubtful doubtful at 08:57 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @DaiMacculate:

    Its Obama first, then Hilary and Edwards on the Dem side...

    Actually, Edwards was second by a hair. He, however, doesn't have adequate fund raising or infrastructure and I think he will fall out of the race because of that.

  • @suntorytime: ...Maybe it should be an issue in Australia since your government has a list of banned games.

  • @Zombie_Crunch:
    McCain is my home state senator and Arizona used to really love him (now we just use him for his pool).

    He was the maverick guy in his 1st race against Bush and likewise in the senate, but started pandering right after he lost to W. Bush deserved a punch to the face for the way he treated McCain and his service (akin to Swiftboat Veteran's for Truth campaign), but McCain ended up kissing his ring and towing the party line (McCain-Feingold Act notwithstanding).

    Had he 'stuck to his guns,' I think he would have been a shoe-in for the nomination and possibly the presidency. As it stands now, I'm not so sure.


  • Image of ca$h ca$h at 08:59 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @JayDiggler: haha damn I thought the exact opposite. From now on I'm typing QFT out fully so there aren't any more misunderstandings.

    @Zombie_Crunch:
    The last 7 years might have something to do with this sudden interest too ;). I totally agree with you though. The least you could do is have a little pride as a citizen, pay attention and make informed decisions that you think would make your country better instead of just sitting on your ass playing video games all day (once you've voted, though, that is a completely acceptable course of action for the next two years).

  • @JayDiggler: I don't know how you "choose not to participate". Giuliani came in 6th. It's on the iowa caucus website. Perhaps you mean he chose not to campaign in Iowa...

    ...And also, I don't think he'll win either.

  • That link to the pick of Hilary, if only she wrapped her mouth around Bills you know what, we wouldn't have had the Clinton gate, with the intern and the dress with the stain.

  • @ARboom: lol. Agreed.

  • Image of doubtful doubtful at 09:03 AM on 01/04/08 *

    @doubtful:

    [www.iowacaucusresults.com]

    Link for proof. Edwards was second by 0.28%.

  • @doubtful:
    I wouldn't be too sure about Edwards falling out. He's run this race before to the end, I'm guessing he'll do the same again.

    If anything, 2nd in this caucus will give him a boost for the rest as fence-sitting Dems who are unimpressed with the though of preserving the Bush/Clinton family country and are unsure of Obama (though really, they should be just as unsure of Edwards' derth of experience as well).


  • @SuedeGopher: JFK never hid his upbringing and his family never segregated themselves from people who were of different beliefs or demonized them. This is what endeared people to JFK and his brother Bobby.

    Bush's issue was that he was selected by the Republican Party because he does what he's told. His faith had little to do with anything. It was a given he was going to the Republican Party candidate. His main reason for winning was the Democratic Party's strong affiliation with Hollywood at each election.